Steering stabilizer bar

[parb]

Third to agree. Massive difference. No longer fatiguing with the fox dampener. I'm a year in with mine and it's been great.

 

[Brock63]

I’m still on the fence with the steering stabilizer. The stiff steering with the lack of return to center doesn’t bother me much. It’s the constant micro corrections on the highway that bother me most. I certainly can manage, but for longer drives I find myself taking one of my other vehicles. Can someone tell me how much improvement there is to the highway drive post-stabilizer? Thanks!

Chadd,
It did not bother me much either as had driven old Land Cruisers, farm trucks, tractors with manual steering, etc....but on highway took continuous input...not hard but not relaxing and as passive as is nice on long trips. I put on the Agile Offroad OEM Fox shock stabilizer they sell. Direct fit, 10 min tops. It went from not returning to center more than 10% to now coming back almost 85% I would guess. All but the very last bit. Still requires a little contact on highway but made drive on interstate for 400 miles easier for sure. I drive out to my property every weekend about 50-60 miles each way through out year especially hunting season...and putting it on cruise control and having the new stabilizer makes it effortless. I also found no negative inputs offroad. If I stayed offroad 90% or doing a lot of aggressive rock and debris strewn trails...might leave it stock but felt was one of the best upgrades done besides rock sliders and the oversized cup holder. LOL

 

[Chadd7]

Ordered. Thanks everyone for your helpful input.

 

[Dokatd]

I am shocked by this last few posts. Nobody coming in to say steering is perfect in stock form. Or y'all just aren't used to real trucks or that's just how recirc ball feels etc etc. Where are all the aftermarket upgrade haters???

 

[DenisM]

I am shocked by this last few posts. Nobody coming in to say steering is perfect in stock form. Or y'all just aren't used to real trucks or that's just how recirc ball feels etc etc. Where are all the aftermarket upgrade haters???

It's not the characteristics of the recirc. ball as such, but a combination of factors including aggressive A/T tread of the BFG K02 tyre, minimal caster, recirc. ball and most significantly the non adjustable setting of the stock steering damper with its quirks.
For many, dare I say "most", owners drive predominantly on smooth pavement which exacerbates the feeling of a "loose/wandering" steering sensation.
The steering is excellent, stock, on dirt roads, for which it was designed.

 

[Tazzieman]

I think people have grown accustomed to overassisted steering that enables lazy one handed driving.
Hand at 6 o'clock , other hand clasping a large drink.
And driving one handed around roundabouts.
Grenadier is not for lazy feckers!

 

[CrazyOldMan]

I think people have grown accustomed to overassisted steering that enables lazy one handed driving.
Hand at 6 o'clock , other hand clasping a large drink.
And driving one handed around roundabouts.
Grenadier is not for lazy feckers!

Well I don’t think the autonomous driving works very well at all. Very disappointing.

 

[Dokatd]

I think people have grown accustomed to overassisted steering that enables lazy one handed driving.
Hand at 6 o'clock , other hand clasping a large drink.
And driving one handed around roundabouts.
Grenadier is not for lazy feckers!

Yeah, that doesn't fly with me. I have almost exclusively owned and operated solid axle off-road relics. In fact the Grenadier for me was supposed to be a step towards civilization while hanging onto some of the familiar feel from the past. In my adult life I have daily driven two modern vehicles and only for about 2 years. One was a Chevy 2500HD and the other was an Audi TT. Otherwise I have been in Real Defenders, Disco's, Range Rovers P38 and older, yotas FJ60 mostly, many different Unimogs as well as Gwagons. There have been some other oddities in there as well but never a daily driver. My wife drives a modern vehicle and certainly she has accepted the new ways.

All of those vehicles including my largest Unimog, my LMTV and even my Military M998 can all be comfortably driven with one hand at 11 o'clock down normal paved roads.

The Grenadier can now as well with a change of stabilizer. Steering still sucks, but it's better.