Some News..... Software update and delays/deliveries?

[Eric]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned laser discs yet or spool to spool tape drives, personally I'm on the side of Mr Babbage, give me clockwork and gearing any day the week and I'll make it work

I think the IRS still partly use a dos based system....... or did I imagine that?

I thought Windows still uses DOS in the background.
Type in a command prompt
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It does, Windows is just a very sophisticated enabling function.

 

[Logsplitter]

How are software updates done. Does the Grenadier have to be plugged in to a Computer or can updates be done remotely via SIM card that is for the Ecall system. (I’m presuming that there is a SIM card for this system) The reason I’m enquiring is that on Monday morning on my commUte to work I had error messages for HHC not available, TSM not available, and Transfer case in neutral, although the vehicle drives well and no apparent faults, this is on top of TPMS, Power steering Climate control and airbag system warning errors over the weekend but no actual fault with vehicle ,those errors did not occur on Monday. All error messages were reported to Ineos via the dealer as requested. Yesterday went out for a short spin around town and no warning messages whatsoever. Could it be that the system has been updated remotely? I’m not a techie person so don’t even know if this is possible.

 

[DCPU]

How are software updates done. Does the Grenadier have to be plugged in to a Computer or can updates be done remotely via SIM card that is for the Ecall system. (I’m presuming that there is a SIM card for this system)

The details are not publically available, but it could be either a normal SIM card or an eSIM which is no physical card for the emergency system.

Either way, my understanding is that these are limited to 112 or emergency calls only.

So any software updates will need the car plugging into something or something plugging into the car.

 

[Krabby]

Perhaps it's with a flash drive plugged into the audio system/USB ports.

Regardless of how, I sure as hell hope it can be done at home (as I was able to do with my Fords via a flash drive). There will only be 20/22 dealerships when NA launches so for some it could be many miles until the nearest one.

 

[Jeremy996]

According to my dealer, all updates have to be done while plugged in and communicating with Ineos. There is no remote update facility at present.

 

[bemax]

According to my dealer, all updates have to be done while plugged in and communicating with Ineos. There is no remote update facility at present.

Same info from my dealer.

 

[AnD3rew]

The details are not publically available, but it could be either a normal SIM card or an eSIM which is no physical card for the emergency system.

Either way, my understanding is that these are limited to 112 or emergency calls only.

So any software updates will need the car plugging into something or something plugging into the car.

Non EU/UK cars don’t have the ecall system so assume that no over the air for us

 

[Tom D]

My Tesla remote updates, but it does it over WiFi not through the sim. Can’t be driven while its updating so has to happen at home on WiFi.

 

[DCPU]

Non EU/UK cars don’t have the ecall system so assume that no over the air for us

According to the initial press pack "SOS Emergency Call is included for: EU, Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain".

The system can't be used, as setup, for SOTA updates.

 

[IG_in_AZ]

Every car / bike I've had got updates via OBD port.

 

[FlyingTexan]

The details are not publically available, but it could be either a normal SIM card or an eSIM which is no physical card for the emergency system.

Either way, my understanding is that these are limited to 112 or emergency calls only.

So any software updates will need the car plugging into something or something plugging into the car.

My discovery connects to my home wifi. So wifi I’d imagine is an option. Could hotspot to your phone and go.

 

[beg]

This is gonna be one hell of an update with the amount of issues we are having , I wonder how many dealers are using the software issue as a reason not to discuss owners problems .

 

[DCPU]

It's also occurred to me that we were waiting for a big software update prior to the first cars being released. Did that actually happen and this is a second big software update or was that looking at being later and later, and they've pushed the cars out to the first few?

 

[ECrider]

It's also occurred to me that we were waiting for a big software update prior to the first cars being released. Did that actually happen and this is a second big software update or was that looking at being later and later, and they've pushed the cars out to the first few?

Good question. I guess we will have a clearer picture as the newer vehicles deliver and are put through their early paces. Will be interesting to see whether the niggles drop off or maintain.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Grenadier Defect List

Theres a downloadable simple spreadsheet to keep track of things now if people want.

 

[Arkaig]

It's also occurred to me that we were waiting for a big software update prior to the first cars being released. Did that actually happen and this is a second big software update or was that looking at being later and later, and they've pushed the cars out to the first few?

Yes there was a software update prior to the first cars being released. There is a second software update currently being prepared which is unlikely to be finalised for release much before the end of July. The software update will require the vehicles to be returned to either a sales agent or a service agent to be implemented. Duration of the update may well differ from one vehicle to another.

 

[ECrider]

Just spoke to Jardines in Kent, software update hopefully within next two weeks, which would mean mid-July. That's what they have been told. Whether it materialises on that schedule is probably not worth putting the house on.

Also mentioned that the cars now being delivered are in a better state of campaign and improving from the original few batches.

 

[simonpa]

Just spoke to Jardines in Kent, software update hopefully within next two weeks, which would mean mid-July. That's what they have been told. Whether it materialises on that schedule is probably not worth putting the house on.

Also mentioned that the cars now being delivered are in a better state of campaign and improving from the original few batches.

Just our bad luck then that we were part of the original few. Maybe doesn't always pay to be one of the first !

 

[beg]

I would expect and hope that we will get recalls for early build vehicles to rectify any issues that have arisen. I must say though I am very happy with mine warts and all

 

[DCPU]

I would expect and hope that we will get recalls for early build vehicles to rectify any issues that have arisen. I must say though I am very happy with mine warts and all

I'd like to see the list of what could be done. I've seen before with other manufacturers that some items are fixable but only "if the customer expresses a concern".