Some clarifications concerning second seat row, Utility vs.Station Wagon

[emax]

Turning around would mean that the mesh can no longer rest against the frame, but only hangs on the welding points.

Under point load from accelerated cargo in the event of an accident or heavy braking, this could break easily.

 

[DCPU]

The fixings are the same, top and bottom, IF the barrier can be turned 180 deg around the brackets would extend the barrier backward.
Does that make sense?

I think I understand, but the lower brackets are on an angle, so not sure you could do that?

 

[MrMike]

I think I understand, but the lower brackets are on an angle, so not sure you could do that?

Maybe if the lower brackets were swapped also it may work?

 

[Jean Mercier]

No, I haven't been back to my dealer since a long time, last time being last Wednesday
But I have a picture from the welds of the side panels of a customer car:

 

[dynosoar]

That looks terrible. I could put up with visible evidence of the spot welds but to have them randomly spaced is just not on.
My car is also a utility order. It will probably look better in the lighter mushroom colour but the above is just not acceptable in my opinion.

A

 

[Beormund]

That looks terrible. I could put up with visible evidence of the spot welds but to have them randomly spaced is just not on.
My car is also a utility order. It will probably look better in the lighter mushroom colour but the above is just not acceptable in my opinion.

A

Agreed. That looks messy.

 

[Eric]

That is not acceptable for a customers car. How the hell did that get thru the "batch and hold" process that is suppose to be about QC checks. Is that paint blistering to the left of the rear roof rail?

 

[Beormund]

That is not acceptable for a customers car. How the hell did that get thru the "batch and hold" process that is suppose to be about QC checks. Is that paint blistering to the left of the rear roof rail?

Might be wax - hard to tell. But if this was my truck I would be querying the finish.

 

[Ever Pragmatic]

No, I haven't been back to my dealer since a long time, last time being last Wednesday
But I have a picture from the welds of the side panels of a customer car:
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personally I quite like the industrial look and honesty of it. Mine is Donny grey and some of the spots were proud, some indented and some half and half. Being fortunate to have sat in my my own in the dealer, what you do feel is the overall heft and solidness of the thing. Having grown up with defenders, 110s and 90s, part of their character was the appalling welding on the window frames and elsewhere. Weld spatter was just painted over.. Classic.

 

[Steveo]

No, I haven't been back to my dealer since a long time, last time being last Wednesday
But I have a picture from the welds of the side panels of a customer car:
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Looks like they've carefully randomised the welding robots parameters to give it a 'rustic' look.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Might be wax - hard to tell. But if this was my truck I would be querying the finish.

However we wrap it up, it looks messy as hell. Perhaps it’s a nod to the defender being delivered with factory dents on the flat panels or world famous welding spatter.
But for a state of the art facility it’s surprising, I’d definitely be raising an eyebrow if I had one on order.

 

[ECrider]

Ive spec'd rear panels and I'd rather not have those "honesty" welds visible.

Not enough for me to turn away, will likely stick in gullwings sometime down the line anyhow.

 

[Znarfgh]

I ordered the utility version and specified panels - but then I changed my mind and ordered windows. Judging by that picture I'm glad I did.

I did not order the rear seat as this is usually the first item I remove from my vehicle and then takes up valuable space in my garage. I want a nice, flat floor with a storage unit in the back and will make up something for the space where the seats would be.

Cheers,

DM

 

[alvan]

Looks like they've carefully randomised the welding robots parameters to give it a 'rustic' look.

You took the word out of my mouth...

 

[Eric]

Might be wax - hard to tell. But if this was my truck I would be querying the finish.

You took the word out of my mouth...

Meatloaf

 

[DCPU]

I received a commercial production vehicle yesterday so will take a look when I get chance.

Did you ever get a chance to take a look at the fixings?

 

[beg]

personally I quite like the industrial look and honesty of it. Mine is Donny grey and some of the spots were proud, some indented and some half and half. Being fortunate to have sat in my my own in the dealer, what you do feel is the overall heft and solidness of the thing. Having grown up with defenders, 110s and 90s, part of their character was the appalling welding on the window frames and elsewhere. Weld spatter was just painted over.. Classic.

Any news on your collection?

 

[Ever Pragmatic]

Any news on your collection?

It’s having the flash today. Apparently Ineos will dial in to it and do their business on it. It also has to have two pipe changing, so if it’s all done, it should be good to go as I’ve paid in full. However this is Ineos… and delays are expected for no reason.

 

[beg]

Hopefully you get the call m8 good luck

 

[Ever Pragmatic]

Hopefully you get the call m8 good luck

I’ll post any developments and am sympathetic with the dealers as Ineos control registration and authority for deliveries