So where are all the first impressions? (right here)

[JOB]

There are a few areas of flimsy plastic, but they’re more that offset by other items of super high quality like the stainless steel tie down rings which are way over engineered but look great and will last a life time.

I agree with that. I think people who “don’t get” the Grenadier really ought to look underneath it. I couldn’t really give a crap about the first aid kit cover, the metal braided brake hoses, quality of the chassis and all of the running gear are where the money goes. And to the morons saying the BMW engine will bugger up, when it does I will just send it to DieselpumpUK to fit an OM606 engine!

 

[Cheshire cat]

@Ingemar recently posted his 10,000km review on Youtube here and it's definitely worth a watch. I am curious to know if other owners have the same, frankly, cheap looking and operating plastic bonnet release and large rear door handles. See the linked video starting at the 1:30 minute mark. If so, I really hope this and other plastics are upgraded before the U.S. release. I have also seen reports of flimsy plastic for the large rear door storage compartment, bottle jack cover, and even the covers for the exterior roof electrical outlets.

I already have my Grenadier and didn’t think the bonnet and rear catch were particularly cheap in their quality and feel. Overall I am not bowled over by the interior plastics and plan to have much of it covered with a 4 way stretch marine grade carpet.

 

[Spjnr]

Anyone who thinks these are cheap or flimsy needs to look at the Toyota 70 series interior trim. It's very similar, but robust none the less

 

[Ingemar]

I already have my Grenadier and didn’t think the bonnet and rear catch were particularly cheap in their quality and feel. Overall I am not bowled over by the interior plastics and plan to have much of it covered with a 4 way stretch marine grade carpet.

...not particularly cheap but it doesn't match the rest of the car in my opinion. but i think it's an easy fix if someone wants to change it...

 

[Loc Nar]

To my eyes, these plastic bits mentioned and shown appear to be prototype level quality. Do they detract from the ability of the vehicle to navigate muddy ruts? Nope. But they do impact the impression the vehicle makes to those not well versed in the minutiae of the vehicle (like most of us here) - and I'm including the WAF factor here. It definitely does not fit the Built on Purpose mantra. I've never once thought about the possible need to replace things such as a bonnet handle, door latch, or storage compartment cover in any previous vehicle I have owned, and they have run the gamut in overall vehicle quality. Definitely an area that Ineos needs to improve, and we're not talking about adding Teak wood or polished Mahogany to the interior. It's just simply upgrading the quality of the plastic used and their fitment.

 

[bemax]

In my opinion everything is durable enough for the purpose of such a car. But the gaps between all exterior plastic parts to the bodywork annoys me really. It is not a matter of the gaps itself. I wouldn’t care at all. But there is so much space where dust and mud and whatever else will get in and start rotting.

 

[AWo]

Can someone check the place in the front left wheelhouse, behind the cover? In a later prototype I saw there a thick ground cable mounted to the frame boom. The cover was mounted in a way, that the lower cover overlapped the upper cover building an excellent water and mud trap right where the ground cable is located.

Is that still the case?



Cheers
AWo

 

[DaveB]

The bonnet release isn’t as solid as the twin pull one on my 5 series, but the rear back door one is in to the job no problem.. There are a few areas of flimsy plastic, but they’re more that offset by other items of super high quality like the stainless steel tie down rings which are way over engineered but look great and will last a life time. ditto the heavy duty floor covering.
The rear door first aid kit cover and the Jack storage are the only buts I’d want changing out and I’m pretty sure that there will be some cool after market stuff for that.

I ordered the table for the rear door so that solves one problem.............when it arrives

 

[trobex]

I ordered the table for the rear door so that solves one problem.............when it arrives

That's a good idea and I have that coming too!

 

[AnD3rew]

Yesterday my one drove me nuts with every possible red and yellow warning at every new start. Today when driving the first time a longer trip with my wife, NO WARNING AT ALL!
Damn this vehicle knows when it is time to shut up!

Hope so, I am going to get a lot of “I told you so” otherwise

 

[trobex]

Hope so, I am going to get a lot of “I told you so” otherwise

If this car beeps at my wife and goes all honkety-beep-birp.... I'll be stabbed in my sleep. She said after the last debacle with "in production now not in production" to cancel, get a proper car, and get off this wait list. My response was... no. She does not know about the electrical gremlins... so I can bluff through that if they occur for a little while (until she reads this forum) at which point she will again hurt me...

 

[DaveB]

If this car beeps at my wife and goes all honkety-beep-birp.... I'll be stabbed in my sleep. She said after the last debacle with "in production now not in production" to cancel, get a proper car, and get off this wait list. My response was... no. She does not know about the electrical gremlins... so I can bluff through that if they occur for a little while (until she reads this forum) at which point she will again hurt me...

Well if she doesn't stab you I am sure others will.
Any chance you can take a drink of a good scotch and stop all the negativity.

 

[Fab]

If this car beeps at my wife and goes all honkety-beep-birp.... I'll be stabbed in my sleep. She said after the last debacle with "in production now not in production" to cancel, get a proper car, and get off this wait list. My response was... no. She does not know about the electrical gremlins... so I can bluff through that if they occur for a little while (until she reads this forum) at which point she will again hurt me...

That sounds like you have a real good relationship with your wife, don’t worry, just tell her your truth and you'll be okay. How big is she?

 

[Tazzieman]

If this car beeps at my wife and goes all honkety-beep-birp.... I'll be stabbed in my sleep. She said after the last debacle with "in production now not in production" to cancel, get a proper car, and get off this wait list. My response was... no. She does not know about the electrical gremlins... so I can bluff through that if they occur for a little while (until she reads this forum) at which point she will again hurt me...

We're in Tremadog and my wife spent 10 minutes pre dinner going through the negative comments on the Harry film, picking them apart as a crow does to roadkill.
You could trade your wife in?

 

[Cheshire cat]

We're in Tremadog and my wife spent 10 minutes pre dinner going through the negative comments on the Harry film, picking them apart as a crow does to roadkill.
You could trade your wife in?

I live only 12 miles from the North Wales border, near Chester. If I was going to be home and you were in North Wales I would have suggested a meeting or for you guys to visit for dinner. How long you in the UK?

 

[Eric]

We're in Tremadog and my wife spent 10 minutes pre dinner going through the negative comments on the Harry film, picking them apart as a crow does to roadkill.
You could trade your wife in?

They depreciate with age

 

[Tazzieman]

I live only 12 miles from the North Wales border, near Chester. If I was going to be home and you were in North Wales I would have suggested a meeting or for you guys to visit for dinner. How long you in the UK?

Sadly we're on a very tight schedule. After a night with my cousin in Hay, we have to get the hire car back to Exeter by 11 am. Then Cornwall walk and fly over to Slovenia.
But many thanks for the offer!
And when you visit Tassy...

 

[Cheshire cat]

Sadly we're on a very tight schedule. After a night with my cousin in Hay, we have to get the hire car back to Exeter by 11 am. Then Cornwall walk and fly over to Slovenia.
But many thanks for the offer!
And when you visit Tassy...

Lots of my colleagues been over there as it was the only deep diving school for a while. Told it is a beautiful place.

 

[Tazzieman]

They depreciate with age

Mine has appreciated, a classic investment!

 

[Tazzieman]

Lots of my colleagues been over there as it was the only deep diving school for a while. Told it is a beautiful place.

Many parts are like Britain , minus the crowds.
Other parts are unlike anywhere.