So, knowing what you know, would you buy it again?

[TCMColorado]

It is often referred to as hypermiling. The technique can be done in any vehicle but is most commonly used in cars that are designed to be fuel efficient.

I enjoy liberal boost pressure way too much to ever use a hypermile driving style .

 

[AztecGrenadier]

It is often referred to as hypermiling. The technique can be done in any vehicle but is most commonly used in cars that are designed to be fuel efficient.

I enjoy liberal boost pressure way too much to ever use a hypermile driving style .

I do try to embarrass a GMC or Ram pickup on occasion. I do love the low end torque. Fun engine when needed.

 

[Tom109]

But now, after looking for potential replacements I have found nothing that I really want.

There nothing else (new) that I would buy either.

 

[Tom109]

and being able add a 2" lift and run 33-34" tires on my truck without causing issues.

34-35” tires will fit with stock suspension.

 

[Krabby]

There nothing else (new) that I would buy either.

You should look for a late model RRC ...

 

[Tom109]

I am getting 21 MPG (Without the trailer).

Best I calculated was 18.4mpg. My last tank was 15.5mpg.

 

[Krabby]

Considering I do nearly 80 on the parkway (now with a roof rack), I'm almost at 21 too, well 21 miles for 2 gallons ...

 

[Tom109]

You should look for a late model RRC ...

The 90 we got for my wife is simply amazing! Super nice interior plus all the off-road packages including EAS and 10k winch. But it also shows how much new LR’s have embraced electronics. Literally everything is accessed through the touchscreen! Not sure I want two of these in my garage.

 

[HeavyFoot]

Low MPG and Greta’s tears means you’re driving it right.

 

[Zimm]

Do you want receipts with the logs? YES

Please read my post. I never claimed 21 MPG for the 20K miles. I specifically mentioned towing and off road use. No I do not get 21 MPG under these conditions.

You can hire me and I will show you how to get 21 MPG driving between cities in North West New Mexico and Southetn Colorado.

Hints:
Do not use the cruise control.
Slow down without using the brakes.
Anticipate traffic flow to reduce speed changes.
Try to stay in 8th gear.
Take advantage of the terrain.
Do not accelerate up hills.

It is not hard to beat the EPA ratings in any vehicle.

Sorry you are getting poor gas mileage.

Maybe your framous valve is sticking.

So, you get 21mpg with a selective reading in ideal conditions, and removing data that does not support your claim. Like I said, I can create conditions where I blow your 21 out of the water. I can do the trip to town with the engine off from the Dunbar intersection 1/4 mile away. I'll get you one hell of an MPG # as soon as I work out how to divide by 0.

Your MPG, is 100% of your miles, divided by 100% of the fuel used, and you can give a written caveat as to how you use it. The EPA mileage has 2 caveats. What they observe in a city cycle and what they observe in a highway cycle, and all cars are equal. Nothing "selective".

Needless to say you DO NOT get 21mpg, and I don't need to hire you to teach me how to bullshit online. I'm quite capable of that myself if I so choose.

 

[pmatusov]

You should look for a late model RRC ...

Having three of them.... a late Classic is quieter inside, has better seats, and far better visibility all around.
I'd still take the Grenadier, though. Even with the same dirty p/s fluid can.

 

[Bluesurf]

I'm good with my purchase, however I would never do it again. "Built for purpose"

 

[Krabby]

Having three of them.... a late Classic is quieter inside, has better seats, and far better visibility all around.
I'd still take the Grenadier, though. Even with the same dirty p/s fluid can.

The wink was for Tom who in fact has a very (very, very) nice RRC.

I've never been a fan of the 3"spoke" wheels but that's about the only complaint I can make about RRCs. They're beautiful trucks - always have been. The P38 that succeeded it on the other hand ...

 

[LC0013]

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Needless to say you DO NOT get 21mpg, and I don't need to hire you to teach me how to bullshit online. I'm quite capable of that myself if I so choose.

Yes you are quite capable and you have repeatedly done so many many times on this forum.
Nobody, when asked, what their MPG is says " let me get me log book out to see what my running talley to date is" they simply just tell you, correctly, what their last tank MPG was.
The EPA uses a dyno machine to test vehilcle mpg and a dyno machine is not real world driving no matter what the data imputes are.

 

[pmatusov]

The wink was for Tom who in fact has a very (very, very) nice RRC.

I've never been a fan of the 3"spoke" wheels but that's about the only complaint I can make about RRCs. They're beautiful trucks - always have been. The P38 that succeeded it on the other hand ...

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[Krabby]

I put a set of the 5-spoke LR wheels on my DII - love those.

 

[pmatusov]

Nobody, when asked, what their MPG is says " let me get me log book out to see what my running talley to date is" they simply just tell you, correctly, what their last tank MPG was.

I beg correction...

 

[bemax]

The purchase was the best thing to do for me. It has been the construction of my personal window to adventure. I do not have to open it all the time but I can open it when ever I want to.
It also gave me time to think what to do with my 110 TD5.
It’s under new construction by now. As soon as it will be ready I can treat it better than before as the Grenadier is the better daily driver.
But for me it’s a question of money to have or not to have as well. Many people here seem not to have the need to really rely on the Grenadier as their first car or have enough cash for buying a new car if necessary. For me it’s not that I don’t care about 80.000 € but I thought well whether I could afford a total write off in the case the company crashed soon after the start.
I would never give someone the advice to buy a Grenadier or QM as a first car on credit if his/her financial condition would be “tight”
For everyone else with a heart for some roughness it’s the best new car to buy.

 

[Tom109]

Having three of them.... a late Classic is quieter inside, has better seats, and far better visibility all around.
I'd still take the Grenadier, though. Even with the same dirty p/s fluid can.

The wink was for Tom who in fact has a very (very, very) nice RRC.

I've never been a fan of the 3"spoke" wheels but that's about the only complaint I can make about RRCs. They're beautiful trucks - always have been. The P38 that succeeded it on the other hand ...

Maybe ‘cause I’m 6’4” tall, but the RRC never fit me as well as the D1. So, I’ll take the Gren over the RRC. The LWB came with Cyclone wheels, but I switched to CSK’s.

 

[Lexx]

There nothing else (new) that I would buy either.

Yes! The new Toyotas don’t inspire confidence, not to mention the absurdly high asking prices. The Mercedes Gelandewagen is a good alternative but the new ones are ridiculously priced. About the only real alternative is an older G Wagon but then you’re dealing with other issues there.