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It is commonnto point to failures of other manufacturers to downplay the flaws and bad service some have faced wirh Ineos.
In my experience , Germans love such ''excitement machines"!
When I get stressed by my Land Rovers reliability....I take a drive in my Hilux as some kind of medical rehabilitation.In my experience , Germans love such ''excitement machines"!
In my country, people always talk about "German reliability" and "first class engineering".
I own and maintain 3 last century Porsches (4.6.8 cylinders). All are engineered as well as Toyotas, but are a lot more exciting to own and drive
I dumped Landcruisers after 25 years of boring reliability - and bought a 78 911 '- and it escalated very well from there.
Local mechanics do not benefit from me!
Oh and as you know, I keep a 50+year old Land Rover to remind me of the horse era
My statement was not an evaluation if pollution control systems are good or bad. It is just an observation that they and other measures cause technical problems within an IC engine.I will not admit to removing the pollution control devices attached to my old P cars.
I will admit to living in a place that officially has the world's cleanest air
Ineos ARE offering extended warranties in the US market to 8 years.
That's a whole lot of correlation without any causation. Keep in mind title holder residual values still impact the ability of the car to be leased vs another make. Therefore the equivalent Honda Civic lease was cheaper than the Chevy Cobolt as Cobolt values plummeted the moment they left the lot. In fact, unlike a purchase, the lease agreements tended to demonstrate resale value in up front pricing, and since resale value in plebeian transportation was pretty much based on the quality reputation of the manufacturer, a good argument could be made that leasing would have just the opposite impact on quality as you are assuming, as the manufacturers goal whether its a lease or a purchase, is to move more boxes.
oh wow! any links / details ?
I cannot find this information??? Links? I left a message for my SA see what he comes up with too.
No wonder I cannot find it its not under warranty its under certified. lol Silly Here is the link https://ineosprotection.com/
A brand new vehicle? The Grenadier has been on the market for almost three years now, yet it's still being sold with the same unresolved problems as in the beginning.
Can I borrow your bazooka for a moment?@Matthias well written complaint. Best to take it behind the barn and shoot it
Are you within 24 months from purchase? Get some local advice but you might want to give it to the dealer so the clock stops while you figure out options….maybe buy back?
If only they weren't forced to include all the pesky environmental control measures, passenger safety electronics, driver safety toys, reversing cameras, cruise control, digital / electronic instruments and engine management then I believe we truly would have had a bullet proof glitch free 4WD, albeit probably with the same issues of mechanical reliability and poor performance and comfort as Land Rovers of old and a horrendous crash safety rating too. I blame Land Rover, they should have sold the old design to Sir Jim when he asked. 
