How would you measure that. The setting has a lot to do with how loud it seems. Like if you’re parked in your wall or in a garage. Or do they put the microphone under the hood?
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From the host of people here that comment about it.
I agree here, even in the talk with Lynn couple awesome peeps on the forum did with her. She stated that there are things they feel isn't a need to change because the aftermarket can do it better anyway. Clearly one would think that they should have more support and growth to the aftermarket community. Heck their portal version is done by an aftermarket company. one of the reasons I bought the grenny is too mess around and make it my own. I do also however understand keeping things stock too, but this vehicle clearly screams customize me. Just like most true off-roaders do.
We warranty the parts once they are installed. If the pump were to fail, Owl would take care of it. The upgraded steering pump does not affect any other part of the vehicle’s warranty.
What’s the owl warranty on this?
I was told last week by the service dept that tire size change will hold the warranty.
I must have missed something - has INEOS denied warranty to someone due to 33" tires?
TKs Parb. Can you remember who, is he on the forum?
There was one person here that said as much, but I’m not sure that was a definitive and final statement from the dealership. Many have repeated this though. I called my local-ish dealer to confirm and I was told tire size will NOT void the warranty (bc it shouldn’t), but that any lift at all will due to the angle change.
thank you heavy foot. Clear to me larger tyres do not effect driveline geometry. You could argue they place a differing stress on the running but tenuous argument imho.
For a drive shaft issue, I was told at the dealership that changing the tire size “could” also void your warranty. They said in their view as a dealer we (the customer) should in theory be able to swap to beefier coil springs, larger tires to bring back the truck to its original height, by using INEOS approved parts, but INEOS would see this as a lift and deny warranty. For a third party steering pump, I imagine they could do the same.
Well if my prop shaft shaft fails again now that I have heavier duty OEM springs, due to the fact I’m a lot heavier on my unloaded weight, due to lifting roof conversion , auxiliary fuel tank, underbody guards, internal fit etc. I will have things to say and would fight my case as my suspension geometry has not changed with no increase in height from its unmodified state.
There are fun ways to spend money modifying your vehicle and there are a means to an end method of modifying.
Understandable, but.... the owl pump is not meant to kill the squeal, it's meant to make the truck drive more or less like a normal vehicle. So unless you are ready to admit that both the squeal AND the ridiculous steering of the Grenadier are problems then you are getting something better than zero. Yes, the squeal is annoying and zero should be just that, ZERO squeal. But the truck drives like crap from the factory and improving its steering/handling is a big upgrade. I cannot possibly understand a person that would take the stock Grenadier handling over a reworked setup that makes it less dodgy, self centers and makes the truck more relaxed to drive long distance. Hoping that Ineos will ever fix it is a pipe dream at best. Preserving your warranty in total and just dealing with it is nuts.There are fun ways to spend money modifying your vehicle and there are a means to an end method of modifying.
When I choose drop $2K to swap out stock tires for a set of meatier ATs, it's a fun mod because I'm getting a ton of value in looks and "performance". If/when I have to drop $2-3K (+time/effort) to replace a non-warranted driveshaft or a leaky diff, it merely gets me back to point zero which is a mechanically sound vehicle (end). This to me is NOT FUN or it's simply necessary because I give a damn.
Like many other car nuts here, I continue to drop $10K on a set of custom forged wheels and $17K on a set of carbon ceramic brakes on an EV because it's a fun thing to enjoy the fruits of your labor (i.e. hobby). However, I bought my IG as a cool daily driver so when point zero items like a shtty steering pump or diff leaks happen on a bone stock vehicle, it's a major bummer. Items like these are table stakes and it makes you really question how often IG engineers were asleep at the wheel during testing and development.
Given 2025 IA's seemingly obstinate stance on mods, I have zero plans to go aftermarket on my IG aside from the 295 KO3s and maybe a DVA Mechanics roof spoiler. I have little desire to waste an iota of energy at dealership service centers. Got no time to spare anyways as I spend most of my computing time on here. Priorities!
Did you actually take a test drive before purchase? Did you do any research on it before purchase? The nature of the steering and its mannerisms were well documented. Squeal aside, but "ridiculous steering" is not a "problem", it's the nature of the truck.
OK gents, not all trucks are created equal and not all drivers are that sensible. Test drive is also not very helpful.
I test drove pre production trucks. Nothing was documented to any real extent when I bought as I was a pre order. I am also able to correct many of the issues myself. So I'm good for the most part. If the owl pump truly does what they say then I will be even better off once I add that.
