Letter to Lynne Calder

[MattA]

Having been on Land Rover forums and other 4wding forums what I see here is very normal and should be promoted
Some fan boys and some hate and ridicule of the product, some who have had a bad experience hate the product, some make all kinds of excuses and ignore the failures because they have a blind love
To get a full understanding and glimpse of the products reality it’s the same as watching the news, watch the right and left biased news, yes the are all biased one way or the other then find the facts half way.
A car forum is totally useless and not worth a pinch of salt if either side of the public’s opinion or perception is muted
It’s not personal attacks unless it is made that way which is pathetic and from those who can’t put up valid arguments because if they unpack their own opinions they would realise they are on the wrong side of the fence

 

[MattA]

On another note , wasn’t the 16th the date for some sort of final word from Ineos?
Can’t wait for that to come and go

 

[Jiman01]

From what I have gathered on this forum more than others it seems is sort of 3 “camps” the “Ineos is amazing and all the issues are NBD” or the “don’t comment just read and mostly passive” and the “ What a shit show why is Ineos so screwed up” and the clas is between groups 1 and 3. Anyone who has had any serious issue with the truck is shamed and told to stop complaining by the “I love my Grennie” group. Like anyone who has an issue should just be happy that Ineos made the truck and should accept all the problems as “normal” I myself have clashed with several people here who basically told me to either accept sub par no excuse build problems or “sell it and move on” that I should be grateful to the Ineos gods for building a truck that spent more time with the dealership then it did in my possession in a year of ownership. It seems group 1 and group 3 have very different views of how the forum should work as well. Group 1 wants only positive posts with no complaints, while group 3 wants solutions and to make it public that there are actual serious flaws with the truck. And to be honest this forum has had some pretty serious clashes that don’t make sense to me. I’ve never understood how people can choose to be so unkind to people having serious problems with a vehicle. Meanwhile others seem content to accept serious short comings as quaint Quirks that are NBD. I truly have no idea, it’s a strange forum.

I agree, but I don't think it’s strange at all. Look at the world. The redeeming factor IMO is that those in group 1 and 3 are the minority but they are the loudest and shouty.. I think the majority are in the middle….maybe left or right of middle but definitely more in the middle than groups 1 and 3.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

ha I think I just like taking the contrarian pov. As critical as I am of Ineos in this forum, I am a strong advocate for Ineos outside of this forum…

 

[IslandFalconer]

ha I think I just like taking the contrarian pov. As critical as I am of Ineos in this forum, I am a strong advocate for Ineos outside of this forum…

Im finding it more and more difficult when people approach me to recommend one. The last few people I’ve spoken with I just advised to buy a restomod 110. All the modern luxury in a repairable platform built the way you expect. No $3000 windscreen, no ADAS stupidity, No Bullshit Bong with 1/4 tank of gas. No nonsense Camera warnings, no service reset that requires the dealership. It’s harder and harder to find “selling” points. Until Ineos ponies up and fixes the nonsense I’m not recommending this truck to anyone.

 

[MattA]

Im finding it more and more difficult when people approach me to recommend one. The last few people I’ve spoken with I just advised to buy a restomod 110. All the modern luxury in a repairable platform built the way you expect. No $3000 windscreen, no ADAS stupidity, No Bullshit Bong with 1/4 tank of gas. No nonsense Camera warnings, no service reset that requires the dealership. It’s harder and harder to find “selling” points. Until Ineos ponies up and fixes the nonsense I’m not recommending this truck to anyone.

Interesting take on recommendations or not to
If I am ever asked about a specific vehicle I state my experience and advise that ALL cars have some sort of issue and do your own research, a make specific forum or crapbook page is always a good start so individuals can make their own educated decision based on information and thier requirements and risk tolerance

 

[IslandFalconer]

Interesting take on recommendations or not to
If I am ever asked about a specific vehicle I state my experience and advise that ALL cars have some sort of issue and do your own research, a make specific forum or crapbook page is always a good start so individuals can make their own educated decision based on information and thier requirements and risk tolerance

If there was any customer service/support or competent dealerships in eastern Canada I’d probably say look into it. But as there is neither I don’t see any point in steering someone towards the problems that are Ineos at this time.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

If there was any customer service/support or competent dealerships in eastern Canada I’d probably say look into it. But as there is neither I don’t see any point in steering someone towards the problems that are Ineos at this time.

Unless living near one of the two Canada service centers, Ineos is fking doa in the Canadian market. This vehicle is not good enough to put up with the after sales headache