Ineos Automotive Restructuring

[AWo]

US manufacturing seems to be a necessary step during the Trump Tarif era - Toyota made an announcement on that today

The problems to shift production to the US are time and money...

Either you start somehow from scratch, but is it a new car then which meeds homologation again? Or you bring parts from Europe to the US and pay tariffs again. Take the drivetrain from BMW and ZF...I assume Ineos has no way to produce that in the US so easy. So either they import it and pay tariffs or you get a new drivetrain from the US. Latter would mean Ineos has to integrate, test and all that again, what costs money andctime again. You can add many parts to the list. Like the body. Buying new tools to press these panels is very, very expensive.

Evennif they spend the money...it will take years.

AWo

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Here is a good article.. https://www.theineosforum.com/threa...ndred-jobs-to-focus-on-the-customer.12420429/

 

[LabRat]

In a related note, today it was reported that GM told their suppliers to divest from China with a 2027 deadline. Like it or not, global commerce and manufacturing is a changin.

GM wants parts makers to pull supply chains from China

 

[Itsdchz]

Rumors are rumors … Speculation, and perception create a reality. Let’s not lend to the nay sayers ….
I believe whole heartedly in what Ineos spoke about at Oktoberfest.
Believing in the brand, and continuing to promote it as we drive it, means the most.
We are all in this together, let’s keep looking towards a future where Ineos remains in the motor vehicle market.

 

[LabRat]

Rumors are rumors … Speculation, and perception create a reality. Let’s not lend to the nay sayers ….
I believe whole heartedly in what Ineos spoke about at Oktoberfest.
Believing in the brand, and continuing to promote it as we drive it, means the most.
We are all in this together, let’s keep looking towards a future where Ineos remains in the motor vehicle market.

This is the way. Sometimes it’s depressing wading into some of the threads.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Rumors are rumors … Speculation, and perception create a reality. Let’s not lend to the nay sayers ….
I believe whole heartedly in what Ineos spoke about at Oktoberfest.
Believing in the brand, and continuing to promote it as we drive it, means the most.
We are all in this together, let’s keep looking towards a future where Ineos remains in the motor vehicle market.

Who cares what they said at the October event. They should project that confidence in the public domain.

 

[ryket]

They're having a rough time financially and they have to cut costs. Without knowing exactly which roles were laid off (does anyone have insight into that?) it could mean anything.

My take is that people in the US should be less concerned than the rest of the world, but that's not based on solid evidence, just the direction of travel.

 

[bigleonski]

Any news as to how IA have gone in China??
After the fanfare there has been nothing but crickets.

Although I’m sure the Grenadier knock off that was likely made 10 minutes after it arrived is selling well at a third of the price.

 

[bakepl]

Here is a good article.. https://www.theineosforum.com/threa...ndred-jobs-to-focus-on-the-customer.12420429/

Focus on the customers, novel idea. Just fix some of the basics people here and on other forums regularly comment about. How many times have we read about potential buyers walking away as they live far from an Ineos service centre. Now we all know any service centre, even DIY can service these vehicles but none can perform a simple service reminder reset other than an Ineos dealer. Most recently I read about a dealer refusing to perform a service reset as the service wasn't performed by them. FFS, seems the mantra is 'lets make ownership as hard and undesirable as possible'. Selling such a great vehicle built for purpose shouldn't be so problematic IMHO. Rant over. Is still a fantastic vehicle, certainly for my purpose and fortunately I'm only an hour away from a dealer but please for everyones sake make bi-directional diagnostics and thus servicing anywhere readily available.