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How to view the Grenadier in todays market?

Yeah -$50K or thereabouts but the Grenadier, as it sits, couldn't have been made for that price even without the minimal electronics. Ineos could've built a direct copy of the OD for that price but you wouldn't be driving one in the US.
 
Yeah -$50K or thereabouts but the Grenadier, as it sits, couldn't have been made for that price even without the minimal electronics. Ineos could've built a direct copy of the OD for that price but you wouldn't be driving one in the US.
Or EU, or UK.
 
Yeah -$50K or thereabouts but the Grenadier, as it sits, couldn't have been made for that price even without the minimal electronics. Ineos could've built a direct copy of the OD for that price but you wouldn't be driving one in the US.
Or EU, or UK.
I have said it before, JLR did Ineos Automotive a huge favour by NOT selling the old Defender line; it was by any definition well past its use by date. The tooling was tired, the build massively manual and the structure wholly inadequate for passing crash tests, rollover tests or even just keeping the water out.
IA now need to consider what the development path is; do they look to add adaptive cruise for the markets that want it? Would enough people pay a premium for it to justify the development, testing and approval costs? The same thought process will have to be rolled out for every other toy that someone might want.
 
I have said it before, JLR did Ineos Automotive a huge favour by NOT selling the old Defender line; it was by any definition well past its use by date. The tooling was tired, the build massively manual and the structure wholly inadequate for passing crash tests, rollover tests or even just keeping the water out.
IA now need to consider what the development path is; do they look to add adaptive cruise for the markets that want it? Would enough people pay a premium for it to justify the development, testing and approval costs? The same thought process will have to be rolled out for every other toy that someone might want.
Hybrid systems are more important if they want to keep selling in Uk after 2030 and Eu after 2035.
 
You COULD make a truck for 50K, but it would have to be very light duty components. Think IFS front end, chain driven t case, paper thin tie rods, smaller frame, less towing capacity, rack and pinon, plastic bumpers, and so on. The primary cost of this rig is the heavy duty components. Thats why SAS is so expensive. I suppose additionally the volume would need to be higher. Between inflation during Covid and not anticipating how much the heavy duty components would cost explains the price creep.

Rhony Dahl compared what it would take to build a 79 series to the same level aftermarket and came in at a whopping 170k!
 
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