High Load Auxiliary Switch Panel

[muxmax]

"search"is your friend... look at thread "Universal Parts List" @TheDocAUS has put in an an extraordinary effort on all matters "Deutsch" ....

Or scan the media library. There are several pics of those parts linked to an extensive discussion on the topic.

 

[DCPU]

Yes, that is right. I also have no winches and I wanted to use the NATO socket. But at the moment this is not possible. What a pity. Only vehicles with integrated front winch can use it, because only in this case there is voltage on the socket when the switch is on.
This is a software problem that Ineos is working on. This should be taken into account in an update.

I was a little surprised when I read this earlier; not that I doubted your information; but I did check myself on my own vehicle this afternoon. I tried with engine off and engine on - the 500 amp switch illuminates but no voltage at the NATO socket.

I think I feel a little peeved at Ineos for not pointing this out to me prior to collection - I might even be persuaded to say dishonest, depending on when they knew of this fault. @rovie can you shed any light on the history of this?

 

[rovie]

Could someone be so kind to please photograph one of the high power auxiliary power plugs on the roof thanks. Can we confirm these are Deutsch DTP type? And do they come with both the female and male socket/plug or do we need to purchase the male or female? Thanks in advance.

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@bakepl here you go. They come with both the female (plug) and male (socket).

 

[rovie]

Well done, you found the Unicorn.

Can you upload a larger image for each please. I would like to see the wires in more detail.

@TheDocAUS here you go. The next few days I will be very busy, so I won't be able to make any progress at the moment. As soon as I continue working on the cable ends, I will post photos.

 

[pioneerofthenile]

I'm contemplating taking this off my build. I may not miss it. I just never follow through with many upgrades. let alone buying something that makes them easier to install

 

[rovie]

I was a little surprised when I read this earlier; not that I doubted your information; but I did check myself on my own vehicle this afternoon. I tried with engine off and engine on - the 500 amp switch illuminates but no voltage at the NATO socket.

I think I feel a little peeved at Ineos for not pointing this out to me prior to collection - I might even be persuaded to say dishonest, depending on when they knew of this fault. @rovie can you shed any light on the history of this?

At this point in time, unfortunately, no. But I assume that this did not happen consciously. Therefore, I would also be cautious towards the dealers who may not even know and also towards INEOS. I assume that they have an interest in resolving the issue for us. Maybe it's just a small thing in the software programme.

 

[DCPU]

Hi guys, I found the cable ends in the engine bay.
1) Engine bay:
If you stand in front of the vehicle, the ends are on the right-hand side, directly in front of the brake fluid reservoir. They are difficult to see because they are attached to the wiring harness with tape. I have removed the tape.

For us RHD vehicles the brake fluid reservoir is on the left side as you look at the engine. Where you have the brake fluid reservoir, we appear to have the under bonnet fuse box.

So the question is whether the looms are handed or the outlets are identical? I dug around in the location of yours and came up blank. Not so on the other side the two plastic sheathed wires are very visible located in front of the air box and just behind the red jump start terminal:


They are very tightly bound back into one of the looms, and there's not much spare cable immediately available to make new terminations.

 

[bakepl]

@bakepl here you go. They come with both the female (plug) and male (socket).

You're a champion, thank you. Most helpful.

 

[bemax]

At this point in time, unfortunately, no. But I assume that this did not happen consciously. Therefore, I would also be cautious towards the dealers who may not even know and also towards INEOS. I assume that they have an interest in resolving the issue for us. Maybe it's just a small thing in the software programme.

I hope so as I intended to use the NATO plug from time to time.
As I understand it’s a dead plug at the moment, or didn’t I understand the problem right? So if you would have ordered the optional portable winch there wouldn’t be a way to use it at the moment.

 

[AnD3rew]

For us RHD vehicles the brake fluid reservoir is on the left side as you look at the engine. Where you have the brake fluid reservoir, we appear to have the under bonnet fuse box.

So the question is whether the looms are handed or the outlets are identical? I dug around in the location of yours and came up blank. Not so on the other side the two plastic sheathed wires are very visible located in front of the air box and just behind the red jump start terminal:
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They are very tightly bound back into one of the looms, and there's not much spare cable immediately available to make new terminations.

Will stick an Anderson plug on that one

 

[AnD3rew]

Has anyone had one delivered with the roof lights bar yet? If so can you confirm that it is connected to the dip switch so it comes on and off with high beam if switched on?

 

[rovie]

Has anyone had one delivered with the roof lights bar yet? If so can you confirm that it is connected to the dip switch so it comes on and off with high beam if switched on?

I don't have an LED bar on the roof, but I just did a quick check. Switch 2: Roof front right
Switch 3: Roof both left and rear right. The ignition must be switched on.
It works.

 

[rovie]

I hope so as I intended to use the NATO plug from time to time.
As I understand it’s a dead plug at the moment, or didn’t I understand the problem right? So if you would have ordered the optional portable winch there wouldn’t be a way to use it at the moment.

If you don't have a front winch, yes. Just wait and see.

 

[bemax]

If you don't have a front winch, yes. Just wait and see.

Thank you for the reveal!

 

[DCPU]

Has anyone had one delivered with the roof lights bar yet? If so can you confirm that it is connected to the dip switch so it comes on and off with high beam if switched on?

Given @Jean Mercier's observations regarding the wiring of his switch pack, I'm surprised nobody else seems to have checked theirs and reported back?

It's on my list, but a little way down.

 

[DCPU]

I hope so as I intended to use the NATO plug from time to time.
As I understand it’s a dead plug at the moment,

Correct.

So if you would have ordered the optional portable winch there wouldn’t be a way to use it at the moment.

Also correct.

I also would like to understand what software interactions are required in wiring a large cable between a battery and a socket and how that figures in the reliability and dependability matrix?

 

[rovie]

Has anyone had one delivered with the roof lights bar yet? If so can you confirm that it is connected to the dip switch so it comes on and off with high beam if switched on?

Sorry, I did not answer your question correctly. The front right roof outlet only switches with the roof switch. The operation of the high beam alone does not switch this outlet.

 

[AnD3rew]

Sorry, I did not answer your question correctly. The front right roof outlet only switches with the roof switch. The operation of the high beam alone does not switch this outlet.

What I am getting to is that for it to be legal for on road use here, it would need to be switchable on and off AND linked to the dip switch so if the switch is on, putting high beam in would turn on the lighbar and dipping the lights would turn off the lightbar

 

[rovie]

What I am getting to is that for it to be legal for on road use here, it would need to be switchable on and off AND linked to the dip switch so if the switch is on, putting high beam in would turn on the lighbar and dipping the lights would turn off the lightbar

Yes, I had understood that from you as well. But that doesn't seem to be the case. At least in a hurry, I could not understand it that way. I'll have to look at it again at my leisure.

 

[AnD3rew]

Yes, I had understood that from you as well. But that doesn't seem to be the case. At least in a hurry, I could not understand it that way. I'll have to look at it again at my leisure.

Thanks for that