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Fuel Prices

I wonder if there is some kind of correlation between Australian fuel shortages and most places having sold out of Jerricans?
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And my servo has piles of them.
 
has anyone switched from premium to regular fuel? Any long term detriment from doing so?
That’s all I use. It’s says it on the door. The cost/mileage differential favors regular. I’m rarely doing anything but casual acceleration that I should benefit from the ability to advance timing more.
 
That’s all I use. It’s says it on the door. The cost/mileage differential favors regular. I’m rarely doing anything but casual acceleration that I should benefit from the ability to advance timing more.
Someone i know works for Shell in the laboratory. I asked about the premium fuels, prior to the increase of ethanol in UK standard petrol. She told me it is worth using every 4th or 5th fill as it doe genuinely cleans the engine. It wasn't worth using consistently unless you were driving a high performance vehicle.
Since the change to higher ethanol over here more of us are using the premium as the mpg has been reported to be a lot less than suggested.
 
Someone i know works for Shell in the laboratory. I asked about the premium fuels, prior to the increase of ethanol in UK standard petrol. She told me it is worth using every 4th or 5th fill as it doe genuinely cleans the engine. It wasn't worth using consistently unless you were driving a high performance vehicle.
Since the change to higher ethanol over here more of us are using the premium as the mpg has been reported to be a lot less than suggested.
I have had to have all my carburettor and fuel systems cleaned out on my small plant because of E10 fuel. Until this month my local garage, 12 miles away has now got E5
 
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I have had to have all my carburettor and fuel systems cleaned out on my small plant because of E10 fuel. Until this month my local garage, 12 miles away has now got E5
Since the change we only use the premium E5 for the petrol. My Grenadier is diesel and you don't get so many premium pumps, plus if I used the premium I'd have to pay for it. I have thought about using an additive but unsure on these modern engines.
Any thoughts, anyone, additives to clean a modern diesel engine or not?
 
Someone i know works for Shell in the laboratory. I asked about the premium fuels, prior to the increase of ethanol in UK standard petrol. She told me it is worth using every 4th or 5th fill as it doe genuinely cleans the engine. It wasn't worth using consistently unless you were driving a high performance vehicle.
Since the change to higher ethanol over here more of us are using the premium as the mpg has been reported to be a lot less than suggested.
That may be true for Shell, But, Ineos/bmw are only looking at the octane rating. The rest of the stuff in fuel is a variable from supplier to supplier. What if I’m at Exxon, or BP, or one of the local brands we have around here? Maybe they put cleansers in the lower octane. Maybe not in their high. That’s a supplier question not an Ineos engine question.

Point being, im just sticking to the octane question.
 
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Fuel Prices, todays and tomorrows.
I would like to hear what the conversation between Sir Jim and the Hydrogen pro players is about at this crazy point in time...Stu can we ask Lynn;)
 
That may be true for Shell, But, Ineos/bmw are only looking at the octane rating. The rest of the stuff in fuel is a variable from supplier to supplier. What if I’m at Exxon, or BP, or one of the local brands we have around here? Maybe they put cleansers in the lower octane. Maybe not in their high. That’s a supplier question not an Ineos engine question.

Point being, im just sticking to the octane question.
My understanding from the conversation I had a very long time ago was that the premium fuels on offer in the uk at that time were better for the engine in the long term. This was not Shell specific.
I realise the US fuel is slightly different.
 
I’m paying close to $4 in New Zealand for diesel. And $3.85 for petrol. Plus diesel has a NZ road user charge that adds around 40 cents extra to every litre consumed assuming average 10-12L/100. Where is that hydrogen electric Ineos vehicle ???
 
I’m paying close to $4 in New Zealand for diesel. And $3.85 for petrol. Plus diesel has a NZ road user charge that adds around 40 cents extra to every litre consumed assuming average 10-12L/100. Where is that hydrogen electric Ineos vehicle ???


See, ignoring the cost, what pisses me off about Australian prices is the blatant rip off on diesel here. 91 Ron where I am is $2-19 / L and $3-29 / L for diesel.
That’s not supply and demand or economics yada yada. That’s bloody theft. Full stop.
 
See, ignoring the cost, what pisses me off about Australian prices is the blatant rip off on diesel here. 91 Ron where I am is $2-19 / L and $3-29 / L for diesel.
That’s not supply and demand or economics yada yada. That’s bloody theft. Full stop.
We’re 6-6.20 usd a Fallon for diesel in my area, which is 30% over gas. Diesel/kero/jet fuel is up everywhere.
 
Where is that hydrogen electric Ineos vehicle ???

Not sure about an Ineos hybrid. Ineos was in bed with Hyundai. This article is late August 2025​

8 Vehicle Manufacturers Working on Hydrogen Fuel Cell ...

https://www.fastechus.com/blog/vehicle-manufacturers-working-on-hydrogen-fuel-cell-vehicles/
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31 Aug 2025 — As of 2025, the automaker has continued to maintain its hydrogen mobility market dominance. The 2024 Nexo has a reported 500-mile range and is ...Read more
 
I’m paying close to $4 in New Zealand for diesel. And $3.85 for petrol. Plus diesel has a NZ road user charge that adds around 40 cents extra to every litre consumed assuming average 10-12L/100. Where is that hydrogen electric Ineos vehicle ???
As "they say in the classics", there are "technical " difficulties, so much so that Shell have withdrawn and shut down their domestic distribution in California... our US forum friends might be able to shed more light on this...
 
As "they say in the classics", there are "technical " difficulties, so much so that Shell have withdrawn and shut down their domestic distribution in California... our US forum friends might be able to shed more light on this...
The regulatory and environmental hurdles as well as having to make a special fuel just for the California market has caused most manufacturers to leave the state. Fewer manufacturers and high taxes makes the fuel expensive. I've seen as high as $9.00/USg in San Francisco.
 
The US has historically been a low taxation country. We fought a war against the most powerful country in the world over a 3% tax on a beverage.

However since then most local, state and federal taxes have increased at a rate higher than any reasonable metric. This thread has convinced me that we are still quite a bit behind most of the rest of the "civilized* world.
 
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