Front differential, rear differential, and transfer case fluid levels

[scottg]

Just adjusting your caster will change all of this I'm going to try to hold my tongue on this thread as best I can.

Fill to spill and be done with it. Stop nuking everything. I would put money on it your dealer fills to spill regardless of anything Ineos publishes.

I was a Land Rover tech and I guarantee had they come out with some BS like this we would have all ignored it. Mechanics move fast and we wouldn't waste time on something so inconsequential.

And don't get me started on torquing every bolt to spec. I've seen some crazy stuff in the mechanic world.

I would love to just "fill and spill" and be done with it. And then this happens:

ME: "Hi, my rear differential is grinding badly."

INEOS Dealer: "We checked the fluid level, then took it apart, it's toast. We've contacted INEOS to determine if this is a warranty repair/replacement."

INEOS: "The differential fluid was not filled to spec, it was overfilled. Sorry, no warranty coverage for this."

Saying that dealer mechanics would and do fill and spill and overfill the differentials isn't a defense that would be accepted if I were denied warranty coverage for doing that same thing. IA would probably service it under warranty, but there is no guarantee of that and I prefer not to risk it.

We can and do beat dead horses in many discussions, but I disagree with the characterization that we're "nuking" everything. Until I'm out of warranty, I want to DIY service to INEOS spec, but when I can't find the official IA spec for things, it's reasonable to ask and to ask for sources, esp. when the answers provided differ. So I'll be asking.

/s.

 

[Tenac]

I would love to just "fill and spill" and be done with it. And then this happens:

ME: "Hi, my rear differential is grinding badly."

INEOS Dealer: "We checked the fluid level, then took it apart, it's toast. We've contacted INEOS to determine if this is a warranty repair/replacement."

INEOS: "The differential fluid was not filled to spec, it was overfilled. Sorry, no warranty coverage for this."

Saying that dealer mechanics would and do fill and spill and overfill the differentials isn't a defense that would be accepted if I were denied warranty coverage for doing that same thing. IA would probably service it under warranty, but there is no guarantee of that and I prefer not to risk it.

We can and do beat dead horses in many discussions, but I disagree with the characterization that we're "nuking" everything. Until I'm out of warranty, I want to DIY service to INEOS spec, but when I can't find the official IA spec for things, it's reasonable to ask and to ask for sources, esp. when the answers provided differ. So I'll be asking.

/s.

My tech told me they do exactly that fill and spill. I'm not sure Ineos would be willing to prove that a few extra ounces would cause a diff to break into pieces. I could be wrong I do not design or engineer diffs but would assume the real issue would be spill via the bleeder valves if any.

 

[Dokatd]

I would love to just "fill and spill" and be done with it. And then this happens:

ME: "Hi, my rear differential is grinding badly."

INEOS Dealer: "We checked the fluid level, then took it apart, it's toast. We've contacted INEOS to determine if this is a warranty repair/replacement."

INEOS: "The differential fluid was not filled to spec, it was overfilled. Sorry, no warranty coverage for this."

Saying that dealer mechanics would and do fill and spill and overfill the differentials isn't a defense that would be accepted if I were denied warranty coverage for doing that same thing. IA would probably service it under warranty, but there is no guarantee of that and I prefer not to risk it.

We can and do beat dead horses in many discussions, but I disagree with the characterization that we're "nuking" everything. Until I'm out of warranty, I want to DIY service to INEOS spec, but when I can't find the official IA spec for things, it's reasonable to ask and to ask for sources, esp. when the answers provided differ. So I'll be asking.

/s.

You are literally nuking it in this post. First of all there is no possible way filling to the port will cause mechanical failure on these axles. Second you are assuming a tech will check the fluid level. Well, I've got news for you, this is not NASA. The tech will drain the oil into a catch basin full of oil from other trucks. They will look for glitter while they do it at best. The techs don't have the time or patience to use a graduated cylinder to measure the oil coming out of your diff. Nor do they give a damn, it's not their money. They want to turn tickets as fast as possible with as few call backs as possible.

I feel like I am taking crazy pills here, y'all are still using some hand made document out of Africa and saying it's the bible. And oil capacities are not meant to be followed to the T. Oil capacities on these types of vehicles are meant to tell you about what you will need, not what you need precisely.

I mean seriously, if these trucks are such delicate little flowers that an 1/8th of a quart more oil in the diff will blow it up then to hell with the Grenadier and Ineos.

Seriously y'all need to find something better to use your brain power on. And I probably do too, because too many of you guys are lost causes. Literally, the brain power on this forum is incredible, but as it always seems to be, the smartest group of people often can't figure out the simplest things.

Ok, I am ranting and don't overly want to. Time to head off to my office/shop and work on some trucks for a little bit.

 

[scottg]

You are literally nuking it in this post. First of all there is no possible way filling to the port will cause mechanical failure on these axles. Second you are assuming a tech will check the fluid level. Well, I've got news for you, this is not NASA. The tech will drain the oil into a catch basin full of oil from other trucks. They will look for glitter while they do it at best. The techs don't have the time or patience to use a graduated cylinder to measure the oil coming out of your diff. Nor do they give a damn, it's not their money. They want to turn tickets as fast as possible with as few call backs as possible.

I feel like I am taking crazy pills here, y'all are still using some hand made document out of Africa and saying it's the bible. And oil capacities are not meant to be followed to the T. Oil capacities on these types of vehicles are meant to tell you about what you will need, not what you need precisely.

I mean seriously, if these trucks are such delicate little flowers that an 1/8th of a quart more oil in the diff will blow it up then to hell with the Grenadier and Ineos.

Seriously y'all need to find something better to use your brain power on. And I probably do too, because too many of you guys are lost causes. Literally, the brain power on this forum is incredible, but as it always seems to be, the smartest group of people often can't figure out the simplest things.

Ok, I am ranting and don't overly want to. Time to head off to my office/shop and work on some trucks for a little bit.

Thanks for the input, Dokatd, I'll shut up now.