ESC braking in corners

[Skydance]

Mine is back the dealer tomorrow for further analysis. I can't do any left turns without it braking lightly and any high speed left turns triggers the ESC. I have had numerous wheel alignments including one by the dealer so that's not the issue.

If you’ve had wheel alignment done after the lift. Depending on how high the lift is, the ADAS sensor in your windscreen also needs adjusting. This is what triggers the ESC.

I know of this from the Suzuki Jimny. One of the other factors is indeed sway, ie softer springs and tyre pressures.

 

[CBN]

If you’ve had wheel alignment done after the lift. Depending on how high the lift is, the ADAS sensor in your windscreen also needs adjusting. This is what triggers the ESC.

I know of this from the Suzuki Jimny. One of the other factors is indeed sway, ie softer springs and tyre pressures

Yeh I don't have ADAS in mine.

 

[Skydance]

Yeh I don't have ADAS in mine.

. Then after after wheel alignment, wheel angle sensor adjustment is sometimes required. Set it back to zero. I know all these sensors are interlinked.

 

[Tinerfeño]

some stiffer shocks to reduce the sway.

Shocks won't really reduce sway on curves as there is constant turning moment, only springs and anti-roll bars affect this. On dynamic situatios they have some effect, for example fast lane change.

 

[CountyV8]

I don’t mind ADAS but the upcoming speed warning would be very annoying. Whoever thought of this shite?, when all the new electric cars are faster than ever.

You don’t mind the ADAS wait till brakes for you! An the clicks and bongs drive you mad and when you try to turn them off you get bright warning lights which are undimmed at night just like interior lights at the rear always coming on why won’t things stay turned off don’t even the DRLS and the lack of parking light gets.

 

[CBN]

I was told last week by Ineos that I have to return my vehicle to stock before they will even look at it again - which is ridiculous. I actually swapped the front coils to the ROW spec on the weekend and it is still doing it. So anyone else that has this issue should send an email to head office customer service requesting they fix it as I did yesterday. I think there may be a fault with some vehicles with the ESC system and the lifts may be exacerbating it.

 

[ridler101]

My ESC tends to brake in corners when I am only taking a corner slightly fast. Tonight I was entering the freeway via a cloverleaf and the ESC applied the brakes 3x in the turn. I was not going any faster than the traffic in front or behind me. My Ineos does have the Eibach lift, so I am wondering if that affected the ESC settings possibly?

Did anyone ever figure out why these vehicles are braking while turning at speeds above 35mph . I have large tires on my Ineos and my car also brakes on turning freeway on ramps (or off ramps). I'm pretty sure that the ETC is activating the brakes due to the wheel sensors noticing a difference in speed of each wheel. I will look on other threads to see if anyone has figured how to reprogram the ETC system for bigger wheels.

 

[anand]

Did anyone ever figure out why these vehicles are braking while turning at speeds above 35mph . I have large tires on my Ineos and my car also brakes on turning freeway on ramps (or off ramps). I'm pretty sure that the ETC is activating the brakes due to the wheel sensors noticing a difference in speed of each wheel. I will look on other threads to see if anyone has figured how to reprogram the ETC system for bigger wheels.

33s here, and I pretty regularly take ramps and turns at speed and have never had the ESC kick in for it. More so than larger tires, are you lifted?

 

[CountyV8]

Is it the front camera calibration?? ie higher than should be???

 

[ridler101]

33s here, and I pretty regularly take ramps and turns at speed and have never had the ESC kick in for it. More so than larger tires, are you lifted?

Yes lifted. But ran stock wheels (with lift) and on same one ramp.. all was good until I got the big wheels. I'm at 34.26"

 

[Revelstoke]

On a recent drive over the Duffy Lake Road north of Whistler I too had the ESC kick in several times. I actually didn't think too much of it at the time and wrote it off as a quirk in the IG system. The turns are tight, mostly wet this time of year and quite dirty with gravel and sand...so to be honest I actually wasn't all that surprised that the ESC was being activated. It hasn't happened since but nor have I driven on a road that offers up what the Duffy has. My IG has stock suspension but slightly taller tires at 255/80R17.

 

[CBN]

Did anyone ever figure out why these vehicles are braking while turning at speeds above 35mph . I have large tires on my Ineos and my car also brakes on turning freeway on ramps (or off ramps). I'm pretty sure that the ETC is activating the brakes due to the wheel sensors noticing a difference in speed of each wheel. I will look on other threads to see if anyone has figured how to reprogram the ETC system for bigger wheels.

Yep. Eventually turned out to be a loose bolt on the panhard which was causing it to twist when corning. It turned into a big spat with Ineos and I was hit with a diagnostic bill of several thousand dollars because Ineos blamed me for taking the panhard bar off to install the lift springs. The reality is that the panhard was never touched during the install (like why would you??) and I am certain it had come loose on its own and the lift has exacerbated it. It's not the first time I've had parts of the suspension come loose - the drag link and tie rod have both done it. The whole thing brought me close to selling it and moving on I was so annoyed.

 

[Murray B]

Just to dig up this thread.
We have got the same problem with the ESC braking during cornering while on windy roads.
50mm lift, 35" tyres.
Aside from the loose Pandhard that CBN had, it looks like 34 to 35" tyres could be the common factor.
Any one managed to resolve it?
I'll do some testing and swap back to stock tryes and see if it changes it.

 

[avidtest]

Right after the lift and larger tire installation, mine was activating ESC way too often. Really felt sketchy. And it was pulling left under hard braking, but tracking straight otherwise. Finally was convinced to have the dealer (Mossy San Diego) to do a fresh alignment. I was skeptical because Agile Offroad had done the lift and alignment. Sure enough, the alignment settings were way off according to the Mossy (they did not record before settings though). That fixed the brake pull; Hallelujah. I also had them calibrate the front camera. Thereafter, ESC is kicking in way less often. Still does it, but probably closer to how they designed it. I'd prefer to turn the damned thing off completely. But anyway, calibrating the camera corrected the problem for the most part.

 

[Tenac]

Right after the lift and larger tire installation, mine was activating ESC way too often. Really felt sketchy. And it was pulling left under hard braking, but tracking straight otherwise. Finally was convinced to have the dealer (Mossy San Diego) to do a fresh alignment. I was skeptical because Agile Offroad had done the lift and alignment. Sure enough, the alignment settings were way off according to the Mossy (they did not record before settings though). That fixed the brake pull; Hallelujah. I also had them calibrate the front camera. Thereafter, ESC is kicking in way less often. Still does it, but probably closer to how they designed it. I'd prefer to turn the damned thing off completely. But anyway, calibrating the camera corrected the problem for the most part.

What do you mean they didn't record the before settings? I've not seen any modern alignment tool that doesn't show that all by default, did they do it OG way?

Mine is lifted but I also have King shocks that I adjust for road or off road. For those of you running lift and having issues during turn are you all running adjustable shocks?? I do not have any ESC issues though I have triggered it running down I70 in CO a bit hot into a corner but I also stiffen the ride up with the Kings before hitting the pavement and it rides somewhat "flat".

 

[Skydance]

I was always told if you lift within certain threshold. You need to recalibrate ADAS. Centre of gravity is higher, camera on the ADAS is pointing higher. Also if the suspension (lift/springs/tyres) is softer it can also trigger errors with ESC on corners or high winds. So wheel alignment, wheel angle sensor reset and ADAS camera recalibration.

Do glass windscreen companies have software to reset ADAS. Usually dealers refer you to glass companies, here in the UK.