Contract

[TD5-90]

I looked at the video ... the guy is amazing, no doubt about it, otherwise he wouldn't have built INEOS and "or" Grenadier!
For me, he is a "hero" (I exaggerate here, but I admire him), but I am not, was never, and will never be a purely "Belgian" or Flemish or Walloon or Brasilian (my kids are half-Brasilians, or Polish or Hungarians ... some of my grand-kids are partially)
... eh ... the world is more and more global. He is British and only speaks about Britain, that's my only disappointment.
But he has a clear view, and rational: I don't like pure political views. I agree with 90% of what he is saying, 5% i disagree, and 5% I didn't understand because my mother tongue isn't English

My opinion: He's undoubtedly a local patriot, in the most positive sense. Nothing to be disappointed about, in my view. And he is having a really hard time, since his contribution to his homeland obviously seems to be continuously underestimated by the political class.
By far not every aspect of globalization is positive; just denying your roots doesn't make you a citizen of the world...

I think we get in trouble soon when we have to explain to Stu what all this has to do with "Contracts" ;-)

 

[Jean Mercier]

Ok Ok ... I agree ... 100%

 

[TD5-90]

The video you linked has it's own thread ~ so you can't really go off topic with these thoughts there

Leading through disruption - an interview with Sir Jim Ratcliffe

A lengthy interview with an FT journalist in front of a live audience. A good listen on a number of topics, but if you want the snippets on the Grenadier then jump to 54:50 & 1:15:00. He talks of road testing it in the UK recently with Lewis Hamilton driving and says it's a fantastic road...

www.theineosforum.com

Wow, didn't notice! The full credits (+ a bonus) is yours!!
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What I don't understand: No (zero) comments on YT on this video. Or did I miss they don't allow comments?

 

[DaveB]

Wow, didn't notice! The full credits (+ a bonus) is yours!!
Thanks!
What I don't understand: No (zero) comments on YT on this video. Or did I miss they don't allow comments?

Yes.
Or no

 

[acwiltshire]

Still no contract despite my agent saying in Dec he could see it for Jan manufacture on his dealer portal.

Spoke to Ineos today, confirmed they can see a Jan 13/14th build, but can also see i havent had contract. They'll check daily and let me know asap.......

If they'd said Jan 11th build it would be a birthday gift ...... but that's one for the average age thread ( 61 if you must know)

Fieldmaster diesel, black grey seats , privacy glass and towbar. Donny Grey.

 

[beanohallett]

Still no contract despite my agent saying in Dec he could see it for Jan manufacture on his dealer portal.

Spoke to Ineos today, confirmed they can see a Jan 13/14th build, but can also see i havent had contract. They'll check daily and let me know asap.......

If they'd said Jan 11th build it would be a birthday gift ...... but that's one for the average age thread ( 61 if you must know)

Fieldmaster diesel, black grey seats , privacy glass and towbar. Donny Grey.

same as you, no contract 13th Jan build date [ which is a friday by the way !] and will see when it gets delivered. best of luck and keep the faith

 

[Jean Mercier]

13th Jan build date [ which is a friday by the way !]

The ship will sink

 

[Clunster]

I also think we will get our car's ...
But indeed Ineos is standing it's own way.
There are some contradictions: sir Jim is British; he decided finally to build his "German-Italian- ..." (Carraro) car in Austria (prototypes) and finally in France in a German factory (Mercedes) with a German motor (BMW) ...
"Sir Jim" decided to vote BREXIT!!!!!!
Hmmm ... why build your car on "The Continent" then, business as usual?
With due respect to "Jim", looks to be a nice guy, with his own beliefs

No contradiction, JR is married to an Italian and loves Europe, investing heavily in the continent. Like many he isn't keen on EU governance, a completely separate issue that some people conflate to make weak political points.

 

[Sam]

Spoke to Ineos today, confirmed they can see a Jan 13/14th build, but can also see i havent had contract. They'll check daily and let me know asap.......

This is far-fetched, from Ineos. I mean, really?

Watching your outcome @acwiltshire with interest

 

[beanohallett]

The ship will sink

Now there, is it the build date or completion date that is the key to success? , something to ponder on at the pub on a Friday evening during sundowners

 

[beanohallett]

Has there been an extended Xmas shutdown at Hambach ~ anyone know?

with #JOB1 done, i think the answer is a resounding YES

 

[grenadierboy]

with #JOB1 done, i think the answer is a resounding YES

No - they are busy in admin.

There is a "whole bunch" of contracts being sent out this week (according to the INEOS helpline last week)!!

 

[das mo]

No - they are busy in admin.

There is a "whole bunch" of contracts being sent out this week (according to the INEOS helpline last week)!!

That is what she said.

 

[emax]

I just called the Ineos hotline and was told that my build date is January, 17th.

Though no contract yet.

 

[das mo]

I just called the Ineos hotline and was told that my build date is January, 17th.

Though no contract yet.

Same

 

[ECrider]

I just called the Ineos hotline and was told that my build date is January, 17th.

Though no contract yet.

Good news, was Jan you previous (last updated) build slot?

 

[To]

I just called the Ineos hotline and was told that my build date is January, 17th.

Though no contract yet.

Without a contract, it is very unlikely that the Grenadier will be built in January. Ineos sends out the contracts in such a way that there is subsequently no excessive waiting time before delivery. Vehicles are first built for those who also have purchase contracts. This is what I have been told by Ineos.

 

[DenisM]

Reading between the lines of Mark Tenant's comments in the Car Magazine article provided by Jeremy996, it's not surprising that there's a disconnect between contracts and production, especially when IA had 'promised' that they would allow 'late' changes (within reason). They may be relying on the enthusiasm of early deposit customers and pushing ahead on those specced builds to get a baseline. It must be a logistics organisational nightmare considering that the whole assembly line could grind to a halt due to disruption to a common part... for example harnesses, windscreens or even wheelnuts. No wonder he said they're proceeding "gently" and investing in "quality circles" to get up the learning curve! I think they're probably trying to build component inventory so as to achieve a substantial uninterrupted production run...
Meanwhile I have a house to paint and decks to oil before the wet season settles in.. the arrival of the Grenadier in a few months is a " motivation treat" !!

 

[emax]

Good news, was Jan you previous (last updated) build slot?

Yes, it was.

The guy told me "you're among the first ones in Germany to get a Grenadier."
Nice.

Then, I heard my wife call out from the kitchen: "That's what they tell them all."

 

[WhiteBear]

I just called the Ineos hotline and was told that my build date is January, 17th.

Though no contract yet.

Same. That’s the answer since 6 weeks - for how many people?