Autel TPMS programing MX-sensors - Moab?

[mccasksl]

Looking for someone w/ early Autel TPMS program unit / software, who can assist (paid) in manually programing Autel MX-sensors to OEM TPMS unit codes for a second set of wheels. I pulled the OEM TPMS unit codes using a Sept/24 purchased TW508WF but auto create is the only option available on my 508 to program the MX-sensors. I have the MX-sensors (actually two sets - don't ask) as well second set of wheels and tires. FWIW I'm heading to Moab 4/29-30 via Albuquerque and returning 5/5-6 via Denver and could meet up in Moab or space between. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Cheers!
Steve

 

[JesseRohr]

I just snagged a TW508WF myself. It supports the INEOS but I don’t see a way to clone my original sensors either. What am I missing?

 

[anand]

I just snagged a TW508WF myself. It supports the INEOS but I don’t see a way to clone my original sensors either. What am I missing?

That means you have one that has the latest updates... Sometime between last April/May and the end of the year, they pushed an update that removed the ability to clone sensors

 

[JesseRohr]

And I take it the new software written sensors DON'T pair with the vehicle?

 

[anand]

And I take it the new software written sensors DON'T pair with the vehicle?

The sensors can be paired to the vehicle, however, it would have to be done the traditional way at a dealership.

I was able to clone @mccasksl 's sensors @ the Moab event with my (not updated) TS508, I know several people have posted on here with non-updated units that have been willing to assist local folks to them

 

[JesseRohr]

Anyone local in Austin? I have read the numerous TPMS threads and even decided to pull the trigger on the wildly more expensive Autel device as well. The TS600 Pro I believe.

 

[mccasksl]

Yes Anand (many thanks!) cloned both a set of Autel sensors mounted in my second set of wheels and a spare loose set of Autel sensors to match my OEM sensors in the OEM wheels and tires. I can now swap out wheel sets and get accurate TPMS readings as long as they are returned to the same corner w/o a trip to the dealer. My Autel TW508WF purchased 11/24 with ver 1.27 software will not clone OEM codes/sensors, you need ver 1.26 or older. But not too much older as Ineos Grenadiers are relatively new to Autel units. The forum has a number of members having older Autel units willing to help clone Autel sensors. Check out the numerous related posts for discussion. You may have to send a lose set of sensors to someone to program / clone. You just need to interrogate the OEM sensors to get the codes for them to clone. You can interrogate the OEM sensors with the newer TW508 units even if you cannot clone them. I have not found anyone in Austin w/ the older Autel units / software. PM me off list if you have any other questions.
Cheers!
Steve
Austin

 

[CASgt3]

My wife and I each have 2024 Grenadiers. We love much about the vehicles and would become very effective sales agents for you if just of few of the annoying quirks were addressed. One of the most annoying quirks is the TPMS system.
I've replaced the wheels and tires on both of our Grenadiers to have wheel/tire options for summer and winter driving. My experience is widespead in the INEOS community. Having to travel over 400 miles to the nearest dealer and then pay a ridiculous amount for the OEM sensors, when aftermarket sensors for almost any modern vehicle are available for a fraction of the price, is something they need to address ASAP. The issue is actiually not with the sensors but with the vehicle's TPMS software, which intentionally will not recognize/learn aftermarket sensor options as other modern vehicle systems do.
I have an Autel MaxiTPMS TS508WF (Software Version1.30 02/15/2025) that I've used effectively for other vehicles. About 7 months ago I purchased a wheel/tire set for my 2024 Grenadier from TireRack which came with TPMS sensors installed that TR said were compatible with the Grenadier TPMS system. They are not; TireRack has since noted that they do not have INEOS compatible sensors. I've tried every programming option available on the MaxiTPMS programmer, including connecting it to the OBD port to configure the vehicle system to recognize the aftermarket sensors without success. Apparently the INEOS OBD port does not allow private party interfacing. I've read that it may be possible to copy/clone OEM sensors using the MaxiTPMS and Autel MX aftermarket replacement sensors. Waiting for a response from Autel for verification.
That said, the correcr fix: INEOS please listen to your loyal customers, address these types of software issues ASAP with updates.

 

[Green Gren]

I’m sorry this has been your experience. What’s going on is you have the WiFi model, as in the TS508WF, that HAD the ability to rewrite aftermarket sensors to clone them to the OEM sensors but Autel took that function away with newer models or the WiFi version update.

I have the older TS508(non-WiFi) and that is able to write new Hex codes to MX sensors as clones for OEM sensors, even after the software update. I was able to buy a new one off eBay for $200 and can rotate wheels for summer and winter as I please.

Maybe try this as a stop gap solution until INEOS gets their heads out theirs ass about the TPMS and any other service reminder alerts.

 

[Glen]

I have the Autel unit that can read and write TPMS hex codes. I recently cloned my OEM hex codes to 9 Autel MX sensors (4 summer, 4 winter + spare tire) so I don’t have to go to the dealer in Colorado Springs when I swap tires with the seasons.

If you’re in the Denver area, I’m happy to help Grenny owners to do the same. I also have a tire machine and balancer, so swapping in new sensors is also possible.

 

[AztecGrenadier]

I have the older Autel unit as well and can program your Autel TPMS sensors to match your factory IDs.

Located near Durango Colorado. Thanks

 

[Green Gren]

Just to add-on to others offers…I’m happy to help Bay Area folks if they need an assist with this and I’ll be in Moab for the Grenadier Gathering April 1-May 3 and can assist there too. It’s a 10min job.

 

[CASgt3]

I’m sorry this has been your experience. What’s going on is you have the WiFi model, as in the TS508WF, that HAD the ability to rewrite aftermarket sensors to clone them to the OEM sensors but Autel took that function away with newer models or the WiFi version update.

I have the older TS508(non-WiFi) and that is able to write new Hex codes to MX sensors as clones for OEM sensors, even after the software update. I was able to buy a new one off eBay for $200 and can rotate wheels for summer and winter as I please.

Maybe try this as a stop gap solution until INEOS gets their heads out theirs ass about the TPMS and any other service reminder alerts.

This is the response I received from AUTEL customer service:
Dear Carl,
I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Our equipment does not support TPMS sensor programming and relearning for Ineos brand vehicles, therefore, we cannot recommend any products to you.

Just to add-on to others offers…I’m happy to help Bay Area folks if they need an assist with this and I’ll be in Moab for the Grenadier Gathering April 1-May 3 and can assist there too. It’s a 10min job.

Response from AUTEL customer service:

Dear Carl,
I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Our equipment does not support TPMS sensor programming and relearning for Ineos brand vehicles, therefore, we cannot recommend any products to you. Thank you for your understanding.

Kind Regards,
Jennifer| Autel Support Team
store.autel.com

Kind Regards,
Jennifer| Autel Support Team
store.autel.com

 

[Green Gren]

Technically, they can’t write/program to INEOS sensors. However, my Autel TS508 can write to Autel MX sensors, and that’s what I have in my extra wheels. I just tell the sensor to the correct hex code from the corresponding OEM sensor and the truck doesn’t know the difference.

The offer still stands to program Autel sensors if you swap out your TPMS sensors you got from Tire Rack…I see you are in Reno. I’m in Tahoe regularly and my parents live in Reno, so I’m up there a bit too. Good luck.

If you want to do it yourself, I was able to buy a new TS508 for $200 dollars and new Autel MX sensors for $20/ea all on eBay.

 

[Tom109]

I’m only planning one set of wheels. The Ineos sensors will go in a box, replaced by cloned Autel MX sensors I can reset each rotation.

 

[Glen]

For someone reading this thread a long time from now, know that you can clone your OEM TPMS sensor IDs onto an Autel 433MHz programmable TPMS sender and your Ineos will read and process those IDs just like it read the OEM sensor IDs.

So before you lose the ability to recover this data, you need to read the OEM TPMS sensor IDs at all five locations (four wheels and the spare) and make a table like this:

TPMS Hex Codes
******************
LF = A6E0793
RF = A6E03CC
RR = A6E05C6
LR = A6E05DE
Spare = A6E290A

Those are the hex codes for my vehicle as read by an Autel TS508WF. Autel is dropping the second digit of the TPMS sender hex ID in its read/write environment: the hex code printed on my OEM LF sender is really A26E0793. It appears Ineos (and at least some other vehicle manufacturers) are ignoring the first two digits of the 8-digit hex code and only using the last six digits to match TPMS sender signals to data processed by the TPMS receiver. (So if you used 0A 6E 07 93 in place of A2 6E 07 93, it should work just fine).

If all else fails, you can visit a dealer and, for compatible 433 MHz TPMS senders, they will be able to (1) read the current TPMS sender hex ID without dismounting the tire and (2) enter the correct hex codes into the vehicle software. That would include an Autel programmable TPMS sender, for example, with its default ID. Don't let them tell you that only the OEM senders - which are just overpriced run-of-the-mill Continetal TPMS senders - will work, that is false.

 

[jscherb]

For years when I've been on a long expedition in my Jeeps, I carry a second spare in the event something unrepairable happens to a tire - I don't want to install the only spare and have to finish the expedition without a spare. It's easy on my 2006 Wranglers because they don't have TPMS and my 13 Wrangler is smart enough to recognize when a new tire with a previously unseen sensor has been installed. The Grenadier's TPMS system unfortunately isn't as smart as that in my 13-year-old Wrangler so I'm looking for a TPMS programming solution for the Grenadier. I've picked up an extra wheel and tire for my Grenadier to make up a second spare and I've been in communication with Autel support to see if their TS508WF will do what I need, which is this:

1. Read the IDs of the factory sensors by placing the scanner next to the sensor in the tire. It would be nice to read from the ECU directly, but I can live without that, reading the sensor data one tire at a time is sufficient for my needs.

2. Program an aftermarket sensor (Autel MX presumably) installed in the second spare with the ID of the failed tire.

I've checked the Autel manual for the TS508WF online, and it appears that after reading the IDs of the sensors on the vehicle, that information will be stored in the scanner. The manual talks about getting the IDs through the OBD port but I'm assuming the ID data will also be there if the IDs were read manually by placing the scanner next to each tire. I believe this to be the case because the screen shot in the manual indicates that if TPMS diagnosis was performed, the option to use that data for programming is presented (even if the diagnosis was performed manually instead of through OBD?). Is this correct?

A subsequent screen in the programming process indicates that a sensor ID can be selected from that list to program the new MX sensor.

Is all this correct? Am I missing something? My bare minimum requirements do not require interfacing to the Grenadier through the OBD port, all I want to do is read the sensor ID of the failed tire by placing the scan tool next to that tire and use the ID thus read to program an MX sensor in the new spare.

I'm ready to place an order for the Autel scanner and sensors but hoping someone with experience can confirm that what I want to do works. Thank you in advance for your help.