The steering pump whine is officially a issue…

[Zimm]

Agreed. I’ll dive deeper today with the service department. I honestly don’t think they know either or are even testing. It just feels like a total scam.
Not to mention the clunk I feel when the truck downshifts rapidly to a stop, they told me that’s normal again..HVAC blowing randomly in passenger footwell, normal by design.
They are replacing two front shocks that made a lot of noise when you drove over anything that wasn’t flat.

lol... sorry... that one is tough sell even to the most gullible.

like i've said before, normal and common are not the same thing.

 

[Zimm]

But remember there might be different limit in the US...you may check that first.

AWo

Honestly, I've never heard of of it. the standard here was always "my car sounds like i'm slowly killing cats, fix it". If thats the case, they can claim "normal" all they want, if its turning the wheels.

Maybe one should drain all the fluid and drive it for a while to see if that cures it... and if not, fill it back up...

 

[MattA]

Just for reference Australia has a 83db maximum for all new cars. That’s the engine at full RPM not the steering pump.
Older cars before 1983 are 94db
Just goes to show how out of touch Ineos is with reality and the requirements of the real world
Yep it’s normal and 80db is fine

 

[shiv.nandak]

Agreed. I’ll dive deeper today with the service department. I honestly don’t think they know either or are even testing. It just feels like a total scam.
Not to mention the clunk I feel when the truck downshifts rapidly to a stop, they told me that’s normal again..HVAC blowing randomly in passenger footwell, normal by design.
They are replacing two front shocks that made a lot of noise when you drove over anything that wasn’t flat.

What kind of noise did the shocks make? I am asking to see if it is similar to the booming noise I hear.

 

[Dlucky]

What kind of noise did the shocks make? I am asking to see if it is similar to the booming noise I hear.

Mine were squeaky, no boom.

 

[Zimm]

What kind of noise did the shocks make? I am asking to see if it is similar to the booming noise I hear.

I thought you were done booming with the insulation.

 

[Blackgray]

My truck in the shop right now. Service department says Power steering pump needs to hit 90 decibels in order to replace it. Mine is in the mid 80s. They know it’s not normal, they just have to say it is..

This is absurd.

 

[Blackgray]

Do any of you have steering fluid leaking out of the steering pump reservoir? I've read that's "normal," but how much is too much?

 

[Dokatd]

Do any of you have steering fluid leaking out of the steering pump reservoir? I've read that's "normal," but how much is too much?

It's 100% normal on every vehicle that has used that reservoir since the late 80's. It's the only genuine Defender part used on the truck and it leaks

 

[Dlucky]

Do any of you have steering fluid leaking out of the steering pump reservoir? I've read that's "normal," but how much is too much?

It leaks, not a lot, hard to gauge how much drips out.

 

[abbeyroad]

I easily fixed mine, but the dealers should be taking a closer look into this before selling. Once warmed up and driven the power steering fluid is just at or below MIN. I fill it to MAX and went driving around a few days. At cold I checked the level and topped it back up to MAX and its whisper quiet now. I have also helped another owner do this exact thing and its been resolved. Keep in mind both had under 500 miles when we did this so no permanent damage or anything after the fact.

I just checked mine after driving 15 miles. Power steering fluid is near max. Steering pump squeal persists.

'24 w/ 61 miles now.

 

[[ Adam ]]

I just checked mine after driving 15 miles. Power steering fluid is near max. Steering pump squeal persists.

'24 w/ 61 miles now.

I asked ChatGPT to determine whether you had spent more time posting on the forum than driving your car. I assumed an average speed of 35mph.

here's the response:

1.​

• Miles driven: 61 miles
• Average speed: 35 mph
• Time = Distance / Speed
  6135≈1.74\frac{61}{35} \approx 1.743561≈1.74 hours
  ≈ 1 hour and 44 minutes spent driving.

2.​

Let’s estimate time per post:

• A quick post: 1–2 minutes
• A thoughtful post: 5–10 minutes
• Let’s be fair and average it at 5 minutes per post

So:

• 22 posts × 5 minutes = 110 minutes
• That’s 1 hour and 50 minutes posting

---

Conclusion:​

Yes, they’ve likely spent more time posting about the car than driving it.

Even with conservative assumptions, the time spent writing posts slightly exceeds the time spent behind the wheel. If any posts were long or had photos, it’s a lock.

 

[Tjeska]

Same here, did fill it to the max line moment I read it here on the forum.
Car had 7000km's on the clock on that moment, so could be that there already is permanent damage on mine.

Still makes that whine noise...

 

[Zimm]

I asked ChatGPT to determine whether you had spent more time posting on the forum than driving your car. I assumed an average speed of 35mph.

here's the response:

1.​

• Miles driven: 61 miles
• Average speed: 35 mph
• Time = Distance / Speed
  6135≈1.74\frac{61}{35} \approx 1.743561≈1.74 hours
  ≈ 1 hour and 44 minutes spent driving.

2.​

Let’s estimate time per post:

• A quick post: 1–2 minutes
• A thoughtful post: 5–10 minutes
• Let’s be fair and average it at 5 minutes per post

So:

• 22 posts × 5 minutes = 110 minutes
• That’s 1 hour and 50 minutes posting

---

Conclusion:​

Yes, they’ve likely spent more time posting about the car than driving it.

Even with conservative assumptions, the time spent writing posts slightly exceeds the time spent behind the wheel. If any posts were long or had photos, it’s a lock.

I have 15000 miles and 2000 posts. So have I. I would bet when one considers reading the threads needed to make the post, almost all of us regulars have.

 

[mcdoogs]

If someone voices a complaint about their Grenadier, they ‘should have done more research before buying’. If they do too much research though they ‘spend more time posting than driving’. Idk seems like an unwinnable game

 

[[ Adam ]]

If someone voices a complaint about their Grenadier, they ‘should have done more research before buying’. If they do too much research though they ‘spend more time posting than driving’. Idk seems like an unwinnable game

In all seriousness - he's put 61 miles on his car. Get out and drive the damn thing.

 

[MattA]

In all seriousness - he's put 61 miles on his car. Get out and drive the damn thing.

Or take it back to the dealer to fix it…
Obviously all fluids should be checked before delivery and all fluids should be on the max level from new when delivered
Some of the crap here is laughable