So, knowing what you know, would you buy it again?

[Jeff Olson]

Knowing what I know, I would buy it again. I love my Grenadier! In fact, I would like to buy a Quartermaster as well.

I do not understand all the hand-wringing. The sky is not falling.

 

[terdrocket]

Somebody needs to pay the troll toll.
Those of us early purchasers bought in sight unseen and I am OK with that risk.
Eibach released what is truly a mild lift spring.
Eibach makes the factory springs. All seemed very cohesive and within the OEM families that make up this truck.
I received my springs within days of taking delivery of my truck in late 2023.
There was no posted warning of damage to the drive shaft from Eibach or anyone at that point.
No one could have thought that this was such an achilles heel at that time.
All this being said, I still love this truck.

 

[WJG-GMT II]

Chiming in because I just added a datapoint to the CV/driveshaft failure tally. Torn CV boot at the transfer case, stock suspension at 7,500 miles. I would argue that it should not be considered a wear item at all, but being charitable and accepting for the sake of argument that it is—should the thing that keeps the driveshaft joint lubricated need to be changed more frequently than motor oil? An item that was backordered for 6 weeks, no less. Maybe at 60k or 75k miles would be acceptable as preemptive maintenance.

Software beeps and door seals are one thing, but a design flaw (heat due to angle) related to the integrity of a drivetrain component is categorically not a “quirk”.

edit: As to whether I made an informed decision--I don't believe there were any reports of stock height failures at the time I purchased. Perhaps my experience can serve to inform a potential buyer. For the record, I love the truck, but Ineos' lack of communication on this topic is concerning.

I’ve seen the CEO on an interview-not remotely impressed.

 

[WJG-GMT II]

I've been on the fence since the pre-production days and finally got around to test-driving one this past week. The steer-by-wire does take some time to adjust, but not huge. However, despite SIr Jim's original design ethos of building a purpose-built vehicle along the lines of the old Defender, the amount of electronics the Grenny has is concerning to me. I suppose that's unavoidable today.

This thread has been informative, but, if anything, it may be pushing me to the side of buying an old Defender 110 and resto-modding it over buying a more 'modern' vehicle. The other thing that's clear for my situation is that I can't daily drive a Gren, as my daily has to be a low ground clearance vehicle, so the Gren would be like my Range Rover Classic, for going off-road.

I do hope the IG succeeds, but I guess only time will tell.

Unavoidable? Seems to me the best thing they could do is to strip out the screen and put in an old school speedo behind the wheel. Purely manual HVAC too.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Somebody needs to pay the troll toll.
Those of us early purchasers bought in sight unseen and I am OK with that risk.
Eibach released what is truly a mild lift spring.
Eibach makes the factory springs. All seemed very cohesive and within the OEM families that make up this truck.
I received my springs within days of taking delivery of my truck in late 2023.
There was no posted warning of damage to the drive shaft from Eibach or anyone at that point.
No one could have thought that this was such an achilles heel at that time.
All this being said, I still love this truck.

So, have the majority of Grenadiers that have been lifted suffered drive shaft failure? Or is it a very small %? The way I understand it, numbers are so small it has been difficult to find a definitive failure mode.

 

[Logsplitter]

My answer to would I buy it again is a resounding yes. What other vehicle could you take off the shelf and drive around the world in with no other modifications? Certainly no other new comparable vehicle I can think of.

 

[Dokatd]

My answer to would I buy it again is a resounding yes. What other vehicle could you take off the shelf and drive around the world in with no other modifications? Certainly no other new comparable vehicle I can think of.

I'd suggest there are a fair number of new vehicles that you can drive around the world in. That's not specifically a very demanding challenge these days. And a stock Grenadier is not particularly capable due to clearance. I bet a well equipped Subaru could get the job done in most situations and god I hate Subarus so that statement kills me.