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Are you sure the Moll 82064 is the model installed in the Grenadier?

No it’s not, the Grenadier is a 105ah. I’m sure @Clark Kent just put that battery as an example Molle EFB battery as the Grenadier one is not listed on the Molle site I understand

 

[Tom109]

My bootlace ferrules arrived

 

[TheDocAUS]

Are you sure the Moll 82064 is the model installed in the Grenadier?

No it is not the one installed, as the 82064 is rated at 64Ah, whereas the INEOS Moll battery is rated at 105Ah.

Elsewhere on the frouim it is stated the INEOS is model 81105. A model I have never been able to find on the MOLL website. It maybe a custom model just made for INEOS.

I did look at the biggest capcity on MOLL, the 94 Ah and the charging volts were the same, but max charging amps was greater.

 

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Ineos model

 

[Lollo050968]

I spoke 2 years ago to Moll customer support (posted somewhere inthe forum), and the told to use the normal battery charging profile, not AGM. They told too, that the charger should have 10% A of the value of the battery.

 

[Clark Kent]

No it’s not, the Grenadier is a 105ah. I’m sure @Clark Kent just put that battery as an example Molle EFB battery as the Grenadier one is not listed on the Molle site I understand

Yes, this. It's the EFB chemistry that matters here not the specific battery model.
I knew if I posted the charging voltage without a reference someone would have asked where I got the figure from. The two Moll EFB specs I found are both 14.4v nominal to 14.8v maximum. I linked to one spec as an example.

 

[OkGo]

I am old enough to remember when starter batteries were measured in cca's.

What is this AH madness, need alternators that can generate enough eleccy to keep the bit'n'bobs going, and batteries that can start an engine then go back to sleep after a refreshing recharge, that takes about 30 seconds.

I am guessing that the battery needs to be disconnected so as to not add more load to the charger(?)

 

[Clark Kent]

I am old enough to remember when starter batteries were measured in cca's.

What is this AH madness, need alternators that can generate enough eleccy to keep the bit'n'bobs going, and batteries that can start an engine then go back to sleep after a refreshing recharge, that takes about 30 seconds.

I am guessing that the battery needs to be disconnected so as to not add more load to the charger(?)

You're likely a part of the majority here!

CCA, DIN, EN, ETN are all standards that describe the attributes of a battery. The newest battery standard is the European Type Number - ETN.
CCA is a US SAE standard for Cold Cranking Amps. That's the number of Amps the battery can deliver over 30 seconds at 0 degrees Fahrenheit and remain above 7.2v minimum.
The others are contemporary standards that cover electrical performance plus factors like physical size and format, post location and type, etc.

Ah rating has always been in the background. It's the rate of current (A) delivery over a period of time (h). Simplistically, a (new) 100Ah rated battery can deliver 100 Amps for one hour, 1 Amp for 100 hours, or any combination in between.
For starting batteries CCA performance is more important than Ah. Lead-acid batteries are good as cranking batteries. They like a short deep current discharge followed by a top-up charge from the alternator. They don't perform as well in a house battery role where Ah performance is needed to supply current to a load at near-constant voltage over time. This is where newer chemistries like AGM and Lithium shine. They are much better at providing Ah than lead-acid batteries.

Modern cars with smaller stop-start engines (and geared starter motors with reduced current requirements) can use an AGM cranking battery because AGM is an adequate compromise of CCA and Ah performance. AGM has a longer cycle life than lead-acid so is well suited to constant stop-start duty.

Yuasa UK has a good primer on the various standards.

Guide to understanding battery specifications

A guide to understanding battery specifications for automotive, motorcycle, leisure, marine and garden batteries

www.yuasa.co.uk