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Prayers for you Aussies

Will be interesting to see what changes come from this tragic event, I anticipate tightening of gun ownership laws being one. Hard to justify why anyone living in suburban Sydney needs six licensed firearms after yesterday.
 
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Will be interesting to see what changes come from this tragic event, I anticipate tightening of gun ownership laws being one. Hard to justify why anyone living in suburban Sydney needs six licensed firearms after yesterday.
The Yank in me would say, had that street vendor been armed for personal protection, he could have stopped the shooter sooner.
 
The Yank in me would say, had that street vendor been armed for personal protection, he could have stopped the shooter sooner.
All good in theory , rarely happens outside the movies.
Meanwhile, an untrained unarmed local fruit shop owner rushes shooter and pulls rifle off him.
Who here would do that???
 
The Yank in me would say, had that street vendor been armed for personal protection, he could have stopped the shooter sooner.
The Aussie in me would say if that Father & Son had AR-15s, bump stocks and high capacity magazines we would have 160 or more dead not 16.

It will be interesting to see what changes, this won't just be brushed off as just another day another mass shooting. Our society will react very differently than some others.
 
First, I would like to express my deepest condolences for the shooting incident in Australia.
South Korea does not have a gun permit system, which is why similar incidents do not occur.
However, even if gun permits were allowed, such incidents would still be unlikely,
because nearly all men have completed mandatory military service, meaning that for every perpetrator,
there would be at least around 300 people capable of confronting him.
 
All good in theory , rarely happens outside the movies.
Meanwhile, an untrained unarmed local fruit shop owner rushes shooter and pulls rifle off him.
Who here would do that???
The National Crime Victimization Survey of the US Census Bureau reports 61k-65k in annual defensive gun use.
 
I appreciated the sentiment from @LabRat reaching out to the Aussie forum members over the tragic events at Bondi Beach on December 14th. And @Steve.B reciprocating with a reflection of the events at Brown University just one day prior. That exchange was ruined within a half-dozen posts by it turning into another pointless debate about gun rights. It will continue to spiral from here and dudes will be yelling at each other very soon. The bodies haven't even left the morgue. Nice.

It's a tired argument. The constitutional settings, laws and cultural differences are vast. There will never be agreement so I question why it was necessary to go there again. Argue if you must but showing some restraint would be ok as well.

Edit: Wrong attribution for the mention of Brown University. Steve.B at post #3 not Shopkeep.

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cultural differences are vast.
As Borat pointed out when he visited
At the end of the day this is about religious differences/wars ; let's not go down the politics and religion vortex , it never ends well on a car forum.
 
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