No Adblue / No ADAS

[Karearea]

My Adblue warning came on yesterday and it says I have 1600 km range left.
It flashes up every couple of minutes so I don't think anyone can blame the vehicle if they run out, as you say.
I have a 10 litre container in the shed so I will top it up shortly.

Ok, happy to admit I’m a dumbarse here (well after all it took me ages to update my screen to include outside temp!) Anyway….
I drove for over 159km the other day looking for the “remaining range” for adblue and failed to find it!
This question is similar but more advanced than admitting I need to read the instructions but…
Please tell me how to find this information

 

[DaveB]

Ok, happy to admit I’m a dumbarse here (well after all it took me ages to update my screen to include outside temp!) Anyway….
I drove for over 159km the other day looking for the “remaining range” for adblue and failed to find it!
This question is similar but more advanced than admitting I need to read the instructions but…
Please tell me how to find this information

I just took some pictures from my car.
There are two ways you can get the information.
One is to cycle through the menu below fuel temp & gear using the "Trip" button on the end of the light stalk.
You may have to set this up in the settings menu first, I can't remember what factory default is.
The other is to go through the vehicle functions menu as below.

 

[Karearea]

I just took some pictures from my car.
There are two ways you can get the information.
One is to cycle through the menu below fuel temp & gear using the "Trip" button on the end of the light stalk.
You may have to set this up in the settings menu first, I can't remember what factory default is.
The other is to go through the vehicle functions menu as below.


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Bloody awesome thanks Dave I’m in Shitake now

 

[DaveB]

Bloody awesome thanks Dave I’m in Shitake now

No problem.
Happy to help where possible.

 

[Mumblepants]

I don't understand what the problem is with the adblue.
Unless you are planning on driving 10,000 kms away from anywhere that might have some, or live on a continent where it doesn't exist then it is not a problem.

I can tell you first hand it’s not the additive, it’s the system which is the problem.

One minute I had an amber warning stating
adblue no restart 5500km
Minutes later that changes to 35km
Then after having it checked by the service folk.. a few days later warning “No restart in - - km”

Levels stated on the info screen were 80% add 4 litres

Then… a few weeks before the next service, No restart actually occurred in a car park after having driven for 2 hours. Was flatbedded to the service centre after two weeks I was advised that the adblue control module was buggered… I got the car back yesterday and this morning a new amber warning stating
”Adblue error” Adblue malfunction seek service..

 

[Tom D]

I don't understand what the problem is with the adblue.
Unless you are planning on driving 10,000 kms away from anywhere that might have some, or live on a continent where it doesn't exist then it is not a problem.

I'm not against it in principle, the only issue I have is that the vehicle is essentially bricked when it runs out. For remote travel I think this is dangerous, a cracked hose, split tank or even a faulty sensor could leave you stranded in a perfectly good vehicle.

 

[Eric]

I'm not against it in principle, the only issue I have is that the vehicle is essentially bricked when it runs out. For remote travel I think this is dangerous, a cracked hose, split tank or even a faulty sensor could leave you stranded in a perfectly good vehicle.

But doesn't that argument apply to an oil pipe, fuel pipe, fuel tank as well. Yes it adds one more " at risk " item but is no more risky than any other strategic system fitted to the vehicle. And it is only crippling if you stop the vehicle, it won't restart, whereas fuel and oil system failures are self stopping.

 

[Jeremy996]

Since this is an active thread on ADAS discussion, I'm curious to ask two questions now that I have my Grenadier out of winter storage:

1) I have searched, but have found no reference to removing the hardware responsible for the ADAS warnings altogether... figured I'd ask, since I recall being similarly annoyed with 80s VWs (curiously, not my Vanagons). The doorbell chime in those cars could be removed in about 7 seconds by reaching down under the steering wheel and pulling out the relay responsible for it. Might the beep/bong come from a relay? Or is the consensus that it's through the audio system?

2) My rear door open alert went off soon after my low fuel warning. I jumped out of my seat for the first one and experienced similar terror the second time... except the rear door wasn't ajar. Is that sensor adjustable? Or just super sensitive?

ADAS warnings come through the infotainment - it is part of the software load and integrated with the front camera and the wheel sensors. You will not get rid of it without a serious fight.

The door sensors can be a bit sensitive; you can move them around to make them more consistent, but I'd make that a warranty job if at all possible, some of them are just plain broken!

 

[Tom D]

But doesn't that argument apply to an oil pipe, fuel pipe, fuel tank as well. Yes it adds one more " at risk " item but is no more risky than any other strategic system fitted to the vehicle. And it is only crippling if you stop the vehicle, it won't restart, whereas fuel and oil system failures are self stopping.

All of those are risks for sure, but why add more? The add blue system is up there with things like the interior lights, heated seats etc, it's nice to have but you wouldn't want to link every system in the vehicle to a lockdown situation. The Aussies will freak out when this comes to Australia. imagine being in the middle of the desert when it refuses to start.. and also imagine having to leave it running for 3 days while you try and get to safety...

 

[DaveB]

I'm not against it in principle, the only issue I have is that the vehicle is essentially bricked when it runs out. For remote travel I think this is dangerous, a cracked hose, split tank or even a faulty sensor could leave you stranded in a perfectly good vehicle.

I got stuck in a hired Landrover when it ran out of adblue. In the city.
So I understand the problem.

 

[MattA]

I got stuck in a hired Landrover when it ran out of adblue. In the city.
So I understand the problem.

But the hired LR was neglected in that the add blue had actually run out because people failed to fill it at some point in the last 5000km.
The Gren mentioned above failed because the system failed when it actually had plenty of add blue
Dissing the defender as some sort of defensive default is not a solution to a potentially dangerous problem.
Hopefully it’s a one off and not a inherent issue that rears its head in any significant percentage of vehicles

 

[RYAustralia]

But the hired LR was neglected in that the add blue had actually run out because people failed to fill it at some point in the last 5000km.
The Gren mentioned above failed because the system failed when it actually had plenty of add blue
Dissing the defender as some sort of defensive default is not a solution to a potentially dangerous problem.
Hopefully it’s a one off and not a inherent issue that rears its head in any significant percentage of vehicles

Long distance lorry drivers have been using ad blue for years. If it was problematic I can’t see how an entire industry based company n reliable long distance driving would tolerate that. It’s obviously a fault, let them find out why and fix it. The ad blue itself isnt the issue. It’s simply what component failed and why.