No Adblue / No ADAS

[ppearman]

Picked up my new (to me) Donny Grey Trialmaster today - love it.

I knew that SA grenadier diesel’s didn’t have AdBlue, which is great - but when driving off noticed it also doesn’t have the ADAS, so no speed bongs for me !! Who needs a software update when the ADAS isn’t there

 

[Baron von Teuchter]

Wow I didn’t know that. I thought they were global vehicles - all identical. Lucky you

 

[CrazyOldMan]

Picked up my new (to me) Donny Grey Trialmaster today - love it.

I knew that SA grenadier diesel’s didn’t have AdBlue, which is great - but when driving off noticed it also doesn’t have the ADAS, so no speed bongs for me !! Who needs a software update when the ADAS isn’t there

You can leave now

 

[RY-Journeyman]

Wow I didn’t know that. I thought they were global vehicles - all identical. Lucky you

Australian and NZ vehicles don’t have ADAS either - not sure of the newest ones but currently not.

 

[DaveB]

Picked up my new (to me) Donny Grey Trialmaster today - love it.

I knew that SA grenadier diesel’s didn’t have AdBlue, which is great - but when driving off noticed it also doesn’t have the ADAS, so no speed bongs for me !! Who needs a software update when the ADAS isn’t there

We have adblue but no ADAS in Australia
Adblue hasn't been a problem for me yet as I keep a spare 10 Litre at home and keep the tank topped up when it gets down to 2,000 kms left

 

[DaveB]

Australian and NZ vehicles don’t have ADAS either - not sure of the newest ones but currently not.

New brochure released 25th March still has no ADAS in Australia

 

[ppearman]

Australian and NZ vehicles don’t have ADAS either - not sure of the newest ones but currently not.

Given all the complaints about ADAS I had assumed (wrongly) that it was a global thing - was pleasantly surprised for it to be absent!

 

[DaveB]

Given all the complaints about ADAS I had assumed (wrongly) that it was a global thing - was pleasantly surprised for it to be absent!

I don't understand what the problem is with the adblue.
Unless you are planning on driving 10,000 kms away from anywhere that might have some, or live on a continent where it doesn't exist then it is not a problem.

 

[rur42]

I don't understand what the problem is with the adblue.
Unless you are planning on driving 10,000 kms away from anywhere that might have some, or live on a continent where it doesn't exist then it is not a problem.

Somone mentioned on another thread that they were concerned about failure modes, if they get a failure in their adblue system out in the middle of nowhere, line break or leak, etc. Then the engine won't run. No limp mode, just nothing. Even though there's nothing wrong with the engine and it will run fine without adblue. So, just an unneeded added risk. It would be nice to be able let the engine run without it in emergency situations, but then of course, every day would be an emergency

 

[DaveB]

Somone mentioned on another thread that they were concerned about failure modes, if they get a failure in their adblue system out in the middle of nowhere, line break or leak, etc. Then the engine won't run. No limp mode, just nothing. Even though there's nothing wrong with the engine and it will run fine without adblue. So, just an unneeded added risk. It would be nice to be able let the engine run without it in emergency situations, but then of course, every day would be an emergency

My first experience with Adblue was when I hired a Landrover Defender (New version) a few years ago.
It would not start or move because it was out of Adblue.
I was stuck in a customers carpark for a couple of hours until the hire company could get someone to me with 2 litres of Adblue.

 

[Hansel]

Exactly adblue is more mandated BS, and a failure point. Seems like half the people on this forum love or really do care about the gov telling what's right and wrong though.
But we can't even have a diesel so I have nothing to delete the EGR or adblue from so jokes on me lol

 

[landmannnn]

Exactly adblue is more mandated BS, and a failure point. Seems like half the people on this forum love or really do care about the gov telling what's right and wrong though.
But we can't even have a diesel so I have nothing to delete the EGR or adblue from so jokes on me lol

They tell us that diesel particulates are a serious health hazard.
Reason being is that they are small enough (less than 1 micron)to pass through the lungs and directly into to bloodstream.

 

[Baron von Teuchter]

Indeed, I think we all understand why it’s there but on a vehicle like the grenadier there really should be a workaround to be able to drive it if there’s a failure. No excuse for running out but a leak isn’t beyond the realms of possibility and then you’re fecked.

 

[nuclearbeef]

They tell us that diesel particulates are a serious health hazard.
Reason being is that they are small enough (less than 1 micron)to pass through the lungs and directly into to bloodstream.

"They" also say that the very small particles are produced during regeneration of the DPF. Earlier diesels without DPFs generate much larger particles.
Not as esthetically pleasing, but maybe less harmful. (If "they" are to be believed)

 

[Zimm]

It’s all fake news. The earth wants diesel particulates and plastic oceans. It’s planetary evolution, and we’re just the “culture” making it happen.

 

[Baron von Teuchter]

They’re beautiful particles, very beautiful, nobody knows more about particles than me.

 

[DenisM]

They’re beautiful particles, very beautiful, nobody knows more about particles than me.

Exactly --- to have such knowledge, one needs be very particular!

 

[lightning]

My first experience with Adblue was when I hired a Landrover Defender (New version) a few years ago.
It would not start or move because it was out of Adblue.
I was stuck in a customers carpark for a couple of hours until the hire company could get someone to me with 2 litres of Adblue.

You get warnings when the Adblue range is down to 1,000 miles so it must have been ignored by customers and never checked by the hire company.
l've done 19,000 miles in my 2022 Defender. l
assume it was full when l got it. l put 5 litres of Adblue in at around 10,000 miles and it's still showing 6,000 miles of range.
lt was serviced at 16,000 but they didn't put any in then.

 

[vtgrenadier]

Since this is an active thread on ADAS discussion, I'm curious to ask two questions now that I have my Grenadier out of winter storage:

1) I have searched, but have found no reference to removing the hardware responsible for the ADAS warnings altogether... figured I'd ask, since I recall being similarly annoyed with 80s VWs (curiously, not my Vanagons). The doorbell chime in those cars could be removed in about 7 seconds by reaching down under the steering wheel and pulling out the relay responsible for it. Might the beep/bong come from a relay? Or is the consensus that it's through the audio system?

2) My rear door open alert went off soon after my low fuel warning. I jumped out of my seat for the first one and experienced similar terror the second time... except the rear door wasn't ajar. Is that sensor adjustable? Or just super sensitive?

 

[DaveB]

You get warnings when the Adblue range is down to 1,000 miles so it must have been ignored by customers and never checked by the hire company.
l've done 19,000 miles in my 2022 Defender. l
assume it was full when l got it. l put 5 litres of Adblue in at around 10,000 miles and it's still showing 6,000 miles of range.
lt was serviced at 16,000 but they didn't put any in then.

My Adblue warning came on yesterday and it says I have 1600 km range left.
It flashes up every couple of minutes so I don't think anyone can blame the vehicle if they run out, as you say.
I have a 10 litre container in the shed so I will top it up shortly.