Model Year 2026 (MY26) – Confirmed & Speculated Changes

[Tazzieman]

You’re half right, but spelled two incorrectly-there are TOO many…

3 have entered the room

 

[Shopkeep]

No sure about denziens or Chinese made cars with possibly/maybe/allegedly having kill switches but you got to be an idiot to want one or to not to complain about having one forced upon you.
Jeez, people complain about windshield wipers here!

On a serious note is this a future regulation or do US made vehicles already have them? How would they work? I take it there would be a RF signal that would activate the shutdown in an individual vehicle but who has the authority and what is the activation device? Is it a military or FBI thing or can your local county police officer do it? Do they request it from a central authority or do they have an app on their phone? Can it be hacked? So many questions….

 

[landmannnn]

Globally, it is definitely there for Chinese made buses where the owner can shut down the bus via the internet.
Many countries have explored this for cars, but none have done it yet.
There is a positive for car owners in that they would be able to shut down their connected car if stolen. Plenty of negatives though.

 

[ADVAW8S]

On a serious note is this a future regulation or do US made vehicles already have them? How would they work? I take it there would be a RF signal that would activate the shutdown in an individual vehicle but who has the authority and what is the activation device? Is it a military or FBI thing or can your local county police officer do it? Do they request it from a central authority or do they have an app on their phone? Can it be hacked? So many questions….

Couple things come to mind. Number one, it was focus on drunk drivers. I assume the police contact a number and manufacture shuts it down. Second, OnStar on american made cars already has this function, most people are oblivious. The cops have used it to slow and shut down vehicles.

What's messed up is half the laws we hate are because people are stupid.

 

[OkGo]

Globally, it is definitely there for Chinese made buses where the owner can shut down the bus via the internet.
Many countries have explored this for cars, but none have done it yet.
There is a positive for car owners in that they would be able to shut down their connected car if stolen. Plenty of negatives though.

Unless the person who nik's the car replaces or does something to the controller as part of the act.

Being able to shut down a phone remotely has had some but only limited impact on phones being stolen, as an example.

 

[Sammyd]

Tested the 2025 and 2026 (wagons). Big difference between the 2025 and 2026 hvac. The 2026 warmed up fairly quickly, in 2-3 minutes. The 2025 struggled for 15-20 minutes with “4 zones”
When I asked the mechanic, who happened to be in the showroom, he said they only make software changes to the HVAc. He seemed to get annoyed when I suggested hardware changes were maid as well.
Steering seemed fairly “normal” with the 2026. The 2025 was interesting but definitely doable and easily fixed, if one desires. Most adults can figure it out in an hour or two.
These things are SOLID. Dare I say tank like.

Otherwise, they drove well, albeit a bit loud. The driving dynamics were impressive for such a truck.
The dealership really loaded up the 2026s with a lot of fluff. Most were in the mid 90s.

Has anyone done a poll with current/prev owners (2023-2026) about HVAC effectiveness (heater and AC functionality) ?
A- works well, B- adequate, C- hit or miss, D- hopeless

 

[TCMColorado]

Tested the 2025 and 2026 (wagons). Big difference between the 2025 and 2026 hvac. The 2026 warmed up fairly quickly, in 2-3 minutes. The 2025 struggled for 15-20 minutes with “4 zones”
When I asked the mechanic, who happened to be in the showroom, he said they only make software changes to the HVAc. He seemed to get annoyed when I suggested hardware changes were maid as well.
Steering seemed fairly “normal” with the 2026. The 2025 was interesting but definitely doable and easily fixed, if one desires. Most adults can figure it out in an hour or two.
These things are SOLID. Dare I say tank like.

Otherwise, they drove well, albeit a bit loud. The driving dynamics were impressive for such a truck.
The dealership really loaded up the 2026s with a lot of fluff. Most were in the mid 90s.

Has anyone done a poll with current/prev owners (2023-2026) about HVAC effectiveness (heater and AC functionality) ?
A- works well, B- adequate, C- hit or miss, D- hopeless

My 2024 falls into the B category. But many less fortunate owners will definitely fall into C & D. It is one of the primary shortcomings of the Grenadier ownership experience.

 

[Zimm]

Unless the person who nik's the car replaces or does something to the controller as part of the act.

Being able to shut down a phone remotely has had some but only limited impact on phones being stolen, as an example.

The least important thing a phone does, is make phone calls.

 

[Sammyd]

My 2024 falls into the B category. But many less fortunate owners will definitely fall into C & D. It is one of the primary shortcomings of the Grenadier ownership experience.

I’m not sure how to create a poll on this site. If someone can that would shed a true light on this issue.

 

[Zimm]

I’m not sure how to create a poll on this site. If someone can that would shed a true light on this issue.

You’re kinda new. Instead of starting poll about anything, start reading some threads beginning to end and learning.This isnt FB. There’s a ton of good info when you actually take the time to read it.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I’m not sure how to create a poll on this site. If someone can that would shed a true light on this issue.

Brooooo. I have never heard of this issue

 

[landmannnn]

I’m not sure how to create a poll on this site. If someone can that would shed a true light on this issue.

If you are really interested in creating a poll, hit the "post new thread", then click the poll option.

 

[LC0013]

I like the idea of a poll especially if we can make sure no one votes twice.
Hell of a lot easier than researching and reading the forums which, ironically, will not tell you what a poll will.

 

[CRH]

The problem with the heating and a poll is that expectations and attitudes will affect your choice.

From personal opinion, I would say that the heating is fixable but takes a lot of time, determination from the dealer and milage on the vehicle to get ALL the air out the system. Some will vote down purely because the dealer hasn't done their job. There are initial vehicles that worked straight off others not, some may have had faulty hardware, mine had to have both expansion tanks changed to get it to work fairly well, then driving and bleeding got the air out. Ultimately all the systems are the same.
There is still the problem of being short on sensors on original vehicles which means you can confuse the system by blowing full heat for a long time, until everyone is properly cooked, then the system blows cold anything but full heat. You need to cool the sensor down with cold air and time and it will then start to work again.
Now the heating works in winter the mid temperatures work through all the vents it's the colder settings that I am keen to try as we get to summer.

2023 vehicle, 3 years old in may currently on 29,000 miles.

 

[Sammyd]

The mechanic, whist standing next to the main salesman, at my dealership (closest to me) said the problem is only software related and no hardware changes were made to the 2026. Either they were thoroughly misinformed or were dishonest. Therefore, this forum is what I’m relying on for factual info. Generally, asking a 40-50 owners or so would be very meaningful.
INEOS has made substantive progress with 2026. This should provide some reassurance to prospective owners but the dealerships need to be on same page.
Listening to owner concerns and responding will only improve sales, broaden appeal, enhancing the outlook of the company.