Military/NGO/responder usage?

Wilaspira

First Posts
Hi, does anyone know whether the military or NGOs or responder services have shown any interest in the Grenadier?  If so how are these being specc’d?  Is there a “special vehicle” department at Ineos?  I ask since such interest would reinforce the credibility and purposefulness of the vehicle
 

Shaky

Contributor
Grenadier Ordered
No idea tbh. However I would expect them to be fully rinsing all of the private orders before they start pushing out poverty spec versions for fleet buyers. I would love to see them in the hands of organisations who will beast them. You will know you have a good vehicle when you see a convoy of white Grenadiers marked up with NATO badges driving across your TV screen ? 
 

Ovrland Bill

Contributor
Founding Guard
Early on it was reported that Ineos was working on use of the Grenadier by The Halo Trust (land-mine clearing NGO). Have not heard anything lately…
 

emax

Prolific Contributor
Grenadier Ordered
And in case of a serious crisis they will then probably commandeer private Grenadiers ... ?  ?

(everything seems possible in these days ...)
 

@nd

Contributor
Grenadier Ordered
I seem to remember reading something about a specialist  brach of the British army making enquiries about weather all external lights could be turned off for some reason or another. 
 

Shaky

Contributor
Grenadier Ordered
[QUOTE username=@nd userid=8993362 postid=1332735906]I seem to remember reading something about a specialist  brach of the British army making enquiries about weather all external lights could be turned off for some reason or another. [/QUOTE]

I assume for covert running. You don’t want to be driving round at night in a war zone with the lights on for obvious reasons. All the old military Land Rovers had convoy lights which were basically low powered red lights. 
 

Jeremy996

Contributor
Grenadier Ordered
I doubt the British Army will buy any for soldiers to drive about in as they have gone for fully armoured vehicles in theatre.

Grenadiers in the white fleet, (as opposed to Green Fleet), will depend on the lease costs to start with and the lifetime costs for the long term, as all non-war-y vehicles are operated through a vehicle management company.

UK Special Forces buy what they like! When I was a very junior TA REME craftsman, one of my tasks was to sort out a troublesome Range Rover Classic with a very large Chevy engine, (Overfinch special with some composite armour), that had a very dodgy wiring loom and a nasty habit of turning itself off at speed. 
 

DCPU

Active Contributor
Grenadier Ordered
[QUOTE username=@nd userid=8993362 postid=1332735906All the old military Land Rovers had convoy lights which were basically low powered red lights.

There were two settings on the general light switch, the first gave you convoy and the second gave you convoy and side lights.

Convoy killed all general lights, brake lights and horn and switched on a small white lamp located on the rear diff. The rear of which could be painted white to aid illumination.

You were supposed to focus on this light whilst following in convoy. It could be done if you followed closely with your windows down at low speed. It was always amusing to find out later in a morning who had missed a turn on the plain, got lost or hit a tree.
 

DCPU

Active Contributor
Grenadier Ordered
Let's hope someone at Ineos is preparing a pack to respond to this:

UK GSUP ~ GENERAL SUPPORT UTILITY PLATFORM PROGRAMME

The UK MoD recently issued a Request For Information (RFI) for a GSUP ~ General Support Utility Platform (GSUP) for the British Army

According to the RFI: “The [British] Army are seeking market information as to military light utility platforms as part of an initial scoping of options to replace Land Rover and other similar vehicles as part of the General Support Utility Platform Programme. Companies are invited to provide information on current and developing military utility platforms. Variants of interest include General Support, Ambulance and Fitted for Radio particularly when these are all included within the same vehicle family. Platforms should be no more than 3.5T and be driven on Cat B licence (potentially less ambulance variant).”


A good thread on the options, but not a positive overall view for Ineos:

"The Grenadier has a more serious problem. It's niche product that lacks a global supply chain to support it. It will be more expensive to buy and support through-life than the other options listed above. This creates serious programme and operational risk."

 
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