Letter to Lynne Calder

[matt_grenadier]

Unless you start and stop the vehicle 30 times a day. I can’t understand why everyone is so happy to just accept nonsense that shouldn’t have to be. My BMW’s stay off, never have to re press the start stop. It’s not about training, it’s just not needed. I can get my Beaver in the air with less nonsense. The grenadier is a frustration. An unneeded frustration. Get in, turn key, wait for HVAC to cycle, start, turn off start/stop, don’t press fav too quick or you’ll crash car play, wait and wait, press fav, disable ADAS, pres fav again, cross fingers CarPlay doesn’t crash, put in drive.

Now My DHC-2

Spin Prop no hydro lock go
Master switch On
Prime 5x
Engage starter
Energize boost coil
Switch on Mags

Lots of smoke, the remaining cylinders fire, we’re off!

One is a truck that stays on the road, the other is airborne, can carry 2000lb in its cargo hold and can fall out of the sky.

Why is it I can fly a plane with more ease than a 2024 Ineos?

Yes, well said! This vehicle was all about simplification and easy to operate. All about signal and no noise... but all these small things, like you mentioned, do add up. Unneeded frustration, is the worst, because it's such an easy fix.

A lot of these issues, like the start stop, could be a simple software update. It can't take a lot of work, to let a button remember, it's position after engine off. Also the DPF burn is giving me a lot of frustration, a simple indicator (with time left) or an option to snooze, would completely solve the issue.

The problem is we don't have the power to fix it ourselves (we can't rewrite the software), and the dealers will just say it's normal operation, so they won't propose solutions. Only Ineos can solve this problem. We should have a sort of platform were we can report problems and vote them up or down, so users can indicate their biggest problems. If it's an easy fix, that's a lot of benefit for owners AND Ineos, with only little cost.

Can we also write a complaint to Ineos?

 

[landmannnn]

Yes, well said! This vehicle was all about simplification and easy to operate. All about signal and no noise... but all these small things, like you mentioned, do add up. Unneeded frustration, is the worst, because it's such an easy fix.

A lot of these issues, like the start stop, could be a simple software update. It can't take a lot of work, to let a button remember, it's position after engine off. Also the DPF burn is giving me a lot of frustration, a simple indicator (with time left) or an option to snooze, would completely solve the issue.

The problem is we don't have the power to fix it ourselves (we can't rewrite the software), and the dealers will just say it's normal operation, so they won't propose solutions. Only Ineos can solve this problem. We should have a sort of platform were we can report problems and vote them up or down, so users can indicate their biggest problems. If it's an easy fix, that's a lot of benefit for owners AND Ineos, with only little cost.

Can we also write a complaint to Ineos?

EU type approval does not allow the stop start to be permanently disabled. Your complaint on this matter should be addressed to Brussels.

 

[Tazzieman]

EU type approval does not allow the stop start to be permanently disabled. Your complaint on this matter should be addressed to Brussels.

Exactly. And I'm sure IA will comply with whatever the EPA mandates in NA.
Meanwhile the EPA is your knight in shining armour. Even if armour these days is poncy CF.
https://www.motor1.com/news/759476/epa-fix-automatic-stop-start-everyone-hates/

 

[TD5-90]

Yes, well said! This vehicle was all about simplification and easy to operate. All about signal and no noise... but all these small things, like you mentioned, do add up. Unneeded frustration, is the worst, because it's such an easy fix.

A lot of these issues, like the start stop, could be a simple software update. It can't take a lot of work, to let a button remember, it's position after engine off. Also the DPF burn is giving me a lot of frustration, a simple indicator (with time left) or an option to snooze, would completely solve the issue.

The problem is we don't have the power to fix it ourselves (we can't rewrite the software), and the dealers will just say it's normal operation, so they won't propose solutions. Only Ineos can solve this problem. We should have a sort of platform were we can report problems and vote them up or down, so users can indicate their biggest problems. If it's an easy fix, that's a lot of benefit for owners AND Ineos, with only little cost.

Can we also write a complaint to Ineos?

I f you allow me to recommend: Stop complaining, drive & enjoy. If you need attention: Don't seek it from INEOS. Get your attention from anybody else, not from a car manufacturer.

Hit the 30.000km yesterday, and in overall experience it's an absolutely great vehicle!! I don't care about the stuff any more that caused minor annoyance (it's the same stuff you're complaining about) to me in the beginning. Not any more. It's the same, but it doesn't bother me any more. It does not spoil the overall experience.

Remember: Life's short!

 

[Skydance]

I don’t know if it’s already been covered. On earlier 2023 models (no Adas). Can they at least increase the overlay window for the reverse camera on the next software update, it’s tiny.

 

[CRH]

I don’t know if it’s already been covered. On earlier 2023 models (no Adas). Can they at least increase the overlay window for the reverse camera on the next software update, it’s tiny.

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[255/85]

Exactly. And I'm sure IA will comply with whatever the EPA mandates in NA.
Meanwhile the EPA is your knight in shining armour. Even if armour these days is poncy CF.
https://www.motor1.com/news/759476/epa-fix-automatic-stop-start-everyone-hates/

Whatever the current appointed EPA head does will be undone in a future election so not a long term solution. I would think most auto makers will keep Start/Stop but bury it a menu somewhere to be activated/deactivated as needed via sw updates.

I f you allow me to recommend: Stop complaining, drive & enjoy. If you need attention: Don't seek it from INEOS. Get your attention from anybody else, not from a car manufacturer.

Hit the 30.000km yesterday, and in overall experience it's an absolutely great vehicle!! I don't care about the stuff any more that caused minor annoyance (it's the same stuff you're complaining about) to me in the beginning. Not any more. It's the same, but it doesn't bother me any more. It does not spoil the overall experience.

Remember: Life's short!

I seem to completely ignore the ADAS clicky now. Sometimes my foot will involuntarily lift off the accelerator pedal at the first click which shuts it off temporarily. I do press the fave on longer trips at some point but it really doesn't bother me as much as it once did. In truth I've also come to enjoy the lane keep chime and consider it a playful challenge to prevent it from going off. Unfortunately I now notice just how badly everyone else drives.


@Tom D - If your list of issues to discuss with Lynn C. hasn't grown too long I'd like to have the option of engaging the rear differential locker (only) while in High/Lock. Seems to me that it would be simple to add such a function via software and wouldn't require any vehicle modifications. For scenarios where low range isn't required, popping in a locker can be very helpful.