Hello community!
I am considering buying a Grenadier in about 2 years as a company vehicle. The single most important thing for me is longevity. If I pay this amount of money on a car I want to use it for at least 15-20 years, in an ideal world I could give it to my future children in decades. Ok, I know this is probably too much to ask for in a 21st century vehicle but it looks like the Grenadier is the only one I could get in my country that could even remotely be considered for such a long term use. Sadly, LC 70 series can not be bought or registered in my country.
I want to buy quality tools that are build to last and certainly not throw away products that have to be replaced every so often. Most modern cars are the latter but what about the Grenadier?
From the things I looked at, the Grenadier seams to be constructed very robust, with many parts actually being overbuilt. Frame and suspension looks good to me for a decade long use. But is there anything that could potentially be its Achilles heel?
What are your takes on the engine(s)? While I am a great fan of older BMW engines and have total trust in these (M20, M50) I am not so sure about the new ones. I´ve heard many terrible stories about new BMW engines, that they use a lot of plastic parts (eg plastic oil pan, who tf thinks this is a good idea?) that are designed to break right after the warranty expires etc.
Having dozens of ECUs in the vehicle isn´t particularly reassuring either. But I know its a 21st century car. Will these be replacable in maybe 20 years if 1 fails? Probably not. I have this problem already with my 90s Range Rover. If the ECU fails, the car is basically scrap, no replacement for it and no one can fix it. I am a bit scared of all the gremlins these computers will breed out further down the line.
How is it to work on? Are all the important components "easy" to reach and replace? Can the engine be pulled from the vehicle without removing the body from the frame?
Naturally, parts availability will be a major role. We don´t know if INEOS as a car manufacturer will still be around in the future. But then again... try buying spares for basically any old or classic vehicle from established makes... so it doesnt matter if Ineos still exists or not if I cannot buy spares for a 90s bmw either...
I know that the Grenadier as a car is not around for long enough to really tell anything but many of the parts used in it are.
So what are your expectations on the Grenadiers longevity and long term usabiltiy?
I am considering buying a Grenadier in about 2 years as a company vehicle. The single most important thing for me is longevity. If I pay this amount of money on a car I want to use it for at least 15-20 years, in an ideal world I could give it to my future children in decades. Ok, I know this is probably too much to ask for in a 21st century vehicle but it looks like the Grenadier is the only one I could get in my country that could even remotely be considered for such a long term use. Sadly, LC 70 series can not be bought or registered in my country.
I want to buy quality tools that are build to last and certainly not throw away products that have to be replaced every so often. Most modern cars are the latter but what about the Grenadier?
From the things I looked at, the Grenadier seams to be constructed very robust, with many parts actually being overbuilt. Frame and suspension looks good to me for a decade long use. But is there anything that could potentially be its Achilles heel?
What are your takes on the engine(s)? While I am a great fan of older BMW engines and have total trust in these (M20, M50) I am not so sure about the new ones. I´ve heard many terrible stories about new BMW engines, that they use a lot of plastic parts (eg plastic oil pan, who tf thinks this is a good idea?) that are designed to break right after the warranty expires etc.
Having dozens of ECUs in the vehicle isn´t particularly reassuring either. But I know its a 21st century car. Will these be replacable in maybe 20 years if 1 fails? Probably not. I have this problem already with my 90s Range Rover. If the ECU fails, the car is basically scrap, no replacement for it and no one can fix it. I am a bit scared of all the gremlins these computers will breed out further down the line.
How is it to work on? Are all the important components "easy" to reach and replace? Can the engine be pulled from the vehicle without removing the body from the frame?
Naturally, parts availability will be a major role. We don´t know if INEOS as a car manufacturer will still be around in the future. But then again... try buying spares for basically any old or classic vehicle from established makes... so it doesnt matter if Ineos still exists or not if I cannot buy spares for a 90s bmw either...
I know that the Grenadier as a car is not around for long enough to really tell anything but many of the parts used in it are.
So what are your expectations on the Grenadiers longevity and long term usabiltiy?
