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GM Recalls 800,000 6.2L engines

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If you think we have issues then take a look at GM. Last week they recalled over 800,000 Tahoes, Suburbans, and Silverados powered by the 6.2L LT petrol engine. The issue is failing rod bearings. Internal documents showed over 30,000 failed engines prior to the recall. The fix it to replace engines that are starting to fail and then change all of them from 0w-20 to 0w-40 to increase film thickness at the bearing.

Personally I have been very skeptical of this ever thinner oil specs. Our 2020 Range Rover Sport has an inline turbo 6 cylinder and uses a 0w-20 with basically the same spec as what BMW is now calling for in our B58. Land Rover service interval is an astonishing 20,000 miles. I have been going 15,000 and now regret that. I did an oil analysis on the last oil change and it was crap. Tons of metals in the oil. I’m not going to move it to a 0w-40 and resample it after 3,000 miles.

These thin oils and stupid long intervals are being driven by fuel economy requirements and marketing. Do yourself a favor and watch this video. Lake Speed is an extremely qualified lubrication engineer. These is lots of talk about how BMW has engineered the current B58 for the LL-17fe+ oil with changes like coated rod bearings but it really makes me wonder. I will definitely be changing oil every 5,000 miles and doing oil analysis to see where things are. The first oil results showed metals typical of break in. I’m doing a second oil change on Monday and will share the results. Hopefully it is a bit more cleaned up.

View: https://youtu.be/pbEdr6Q6cKw?si=AHHwWfLLvNNr1zOc
 
It is an open secret that the thin oils specs, start/stop, cylinder deactivation and pretty much anything that affects longevity is due to modern regulations. That being said, my wife's Range Rover is going strong with 0 issues at 95k miles and 15k oil change intervals. For the average Joe, I think the oil change interval does not matter much. But I would make an effort to keep start/stop, cylinder deactivation and any other non sense off.
 
No Mine’s a diesel. W30 is still too thin IMO.
They only do it for emissions reasons. I’d rather pay for an extra 0.001% fuel and have an engine that lasts longer…
I've been thinking similarly, from the beginning. Do German Autobahn towing with heavy trailers frequently, and am _really_ concerned about engine oil temps going >120°C from the usual 90...95°C within a minute or less(!) when you call for power at highway inclines. Ambient temp 15...20°C.
If, incidentally, a DPF regen is running at the same time, it is even more, if you don't cut back immediately.

Has anybody observed a similar behaviour?
 
Manol do one..
Which one?
EDIT: MANNOL Energy Formula PD 5W-40 doesn't look bad, it's mid-SAPS / C3 but rather change the DPF 10.000km earlier than putting the engine at risk...
Have a Webasto so cold start shouldn't be a big issue anyway.
 
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Does anyone know if the US version has a gasoline particulate filter? I kinda don't think it does but I'm not sure. If it doesn't then I don't think I need a low SAPS oil but I could be wrong.
 
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