Coil Springs (specs v build)

[anand]

Oooof your VAT….

 

[Logsplitter]

Oooof your VAT….

I know . 20% on everything

 

[Tom109]

Ouch.

 

[TelRidan]

Anyone seen these yet?

Eibach Pro 4" Lift Springs for INEOS Grenadier and Quartermaster​

Wondering what it means for drive shaft angles, etc. Wouldn't mind running a 4" lift, but concerned it would require significant custom work to implement...

 

[Krabby]

Ouch.

 

[Tom D]

I’ve just been quoted this for the OEM black marked springs. This would aline with what @anand was saying price wise for the black marked springs.

Hi Dave

To supply and fit “black” OEM spring and to carry out a wheel alignment after

£1841.88+Vat £2210.26 inc vat

Kind Regards

Jesus!
I got a price on the springs, they were only around 100-150 each, and I got our local garage to fit them as my brothers lift was out of action, they only charged 3 hours labour I think...
Edit as you know I went for the +30mm ones in the end. But I asked the dealer for a price on the blacks.

 

[Logsplitter]

It’s the OEM black marked springs that are pricey.

 

[anand]

It’s the OEM black marked springs that are pricey.

Correct, from looking into the lighter options prior, those are all fairly inexpensive; however the upper 2 (or 3?) spring rates are 4x the price

 

[Tom D]

I must have been misquoted..
Another reason to go for the+30mm....

 

[Tom109]

Still Ouch crazy for the OEM black. Old Man Emu didn’t have this price gradient.

 

[Clark Kent]

It’s the OEM black marked springs that are pricey.

That's hard to justify. Are they made by Apple?

Are you following this thread on the Eibach 500# and 1000# springs @Logsplitter? Those guys are going through the same decision process.

According to the Eibach installation document here the 500# (227kg) rear springs give a 1.4" (35mm) rear lift under a 500# load. If most of your weight is over the rear axle (tank plus rear fitout) and you think your tare/unladen weight gain will approach or exceed 227kg at the rear then the angle change at the front driveshaft will be negligible due to rear spring squat. If you're concerned about it just keep the aux tank full as often as possible which will add another 50kg of fuel but you'll take a small hit on fuel consumption and tyre wear carrying the extra weight around.

 

[Michael H.]

That's hard to justify. Are they made by Apple?

Are you following this thread on the Eibach 500# and 1000# springs @Logsplitter? Those guys are going through the same decision process.

According to the Eibach installation document here the 500# (227kg) rear springs give a 1.4" (35mm) rear lift under a 500# load. If most of your weight is over the rear axle (tank plus rear fitout) and you think your tare/unladen weight gain will approach or exceed 227kg at the rear then the angle change at the front driveshaft will be negligible due to rear spring squat. If you're concerned about it just keep the aux tank full as often as possible which will add another 50kg of fuel but you'll take a small hit on fuel consumption and tyre wear carrying the extra weight around.

Hi @Clark Kent. I’m hoping you can help me. I’m not sure what my original axle weights would have been. My Trialmaster Utility Wagon (ordered with winch and sliders) came with red front springs (1417-1470kg) and green rear springs (1299-1355kg). My typical axle weights (the way my vehicle is most commonly loaded) are 1580kg at the front and 1720kg at the rear. So looking at the INEOS chart, does that mean I could go with black springs?

And is there a way of finding out the recommended axle loads for the various aftermarket Eibach springs?

 

[Tom109]

Those guys at 4wd247 just put a footie ball inside their rear springs. I’m putting that one in my back pocket…