Build month and delays.....

[OGrid]

Who did you email? Give us the name & email address and maybe we can all send her one?

Ms Pelling. Head of PR, Global.

Contact details are listed on the Ineos Automotive website, under Media Contacts. The website also has the Ineos Automotive Leadership team and their respective contact details.

https://media.ineosgrenadier.com/en/leadership-team/?lang=en

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sarah-pelling-4498a538

 

[IG Pop]

https://www.automobilwoche.de/bc-online/ineos-startet-grenadier-produktion-mit-verspatung

 

[Tazzieman]

https://www.automobilwoche.de/bc-online/ineos-startet-grenadier-produktion-mit-verspatung

For those that get frustrated by paywalls , just pop the URL into the box in this site and you can read the whole article
Look behind the paywall

 

[oliverwood]

Has anyone placed an order + de[posit in the last couple of months and if so what is the envisaged built date for the vehicle?

Also are there any selections on the configurator that may cause delays in the build date, such as a winch, certain colours (I like the green, as it would be a work vehicle) or engine type etc?

When you ask Ineos it is like asking them for an envisaged date when man will land on Mars.

 

[Shaky]

The local bookies has man landing on Mars first !!

 

[Spjnr]

Has anyone placed an order + de[posit in the last couple of months and if so what is the envisaged built date for the vehicle?

Also are there any selections on the configurator that may cause delays in the build date, such as a winch, certain colours (I like the green, as it would be a work vehicle) or engine type etc?

When you ask Ineos it is like asking them for an envisaged date when man will land on Mars.

Customer production seems to keep slipping, I was told at my test drive event that id most likely get my Grenadier before Xmas, but im not taking that as gospel. As far as spec is concerned, Shale blue is the only colour that's received a delay apparently.

 

[DaveB]

Has anyone placed an order + de[posit in the last couple of months and if so what is the envisaged built date for the vehicle?

Also are there any selections on the configurator that may cause delays in the build date, such as a winch, certain colours (I like the green, as it would be a work vehicle) or engine type etc?

When you ask Ineos it is like asking them for an envisaged date when man will land on Mars.

Just configure what you want and order it. The longer you mess around the later the build date will be.
It's like a teenager looking at the girl and trying to decide if they will go over and talk to her.
Just do it and take your chance before somebody else does.

 

[rovie]

Just configure what you want and order it. The longer you mess around the later the build date will be.
It's like a teenager looking at the girl and trying to decide if they will go over and talk t her.
Just do it and take your chance before somebody else does.

...there might be a prettier girl to come along.

 

[rovie]

There almost certainly will be...

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I registered for the pickup very early on. But after talking to the product manager, I'm no longer so sure. The very limited load capacity will probably be a problem. He couldn't be persuaded to make a definite statement, but I heard something like 1 to. That would be very little.

 

[IG Pop]

Ouch

Jim Ratcliffe’s attempt to rival Land Rover Defender racks up steep losses

Ineos Automotive’s plans for Grenadier 4x4 hit by global supply chain disruption

www.theguardian.com

 

[Ever Pragmatic]

Ouch

Jim Ratcliffe’s attempt to rival Land Rover Defender racks up steep losses

Ineos Automotive’s plans for Grenadier 4x4 hit by global supply chain disruption

www.theguardian.com

This looks like great value as normal product development and associated r&d for a vehicle like this would be £1b +.. Ineos will offset these losses against operating profit elsewhere in their empire.
Its no surprise about component, particularly micro chips. I did read on this forum that the IG uses c 300..

 

[DaveB]

Ouch

Jim Ratcliffe’s attempt to rival Land Rover Defender racks up steep losses

Ineos Automotive’s plans for Grenadier 4x4 hit by global supply chain disruption

www.theguardian.com

That is normal for a new business.
Most of your costs are at the beginning and this is taken into account in the long term business plan.
Provided you have the cash reserves to carry through.
The initial losses also provide tax write-offs and offsets to use against future profits.
This assumes there will be future profits.
That is also part of the plan
When one Ineos company lends another Ineos company money that allows for a double tax saving.

 

[emax]

These figures are fiscal values. Profits and losses are settled on a quarterly basis, and as long as nothing is sold, the losses naturally increase. So this is not a surprise. The supply chain problem is not new, so no breaking news for the current business.

The question is how long this will continue. So if sales really pick up at the end of this year, it will be a "normal" course of business in terms of the global situation.

I'm not worried about much, except that if the contracts don't come in soon, inflation will catch up with us.

 

[Spjnr]

Wow the Guardian really is a financial Bible. Who knew a company that's yet to sell a single product is running at a loss in its startup phase.... amazing.

This may be worrying if its parent company wasn't a multi billion pound behemoth

 

[Sam]

Should we be worried…?

 

[Tazzieman]

Should we be worried…?

No

 

[J8hn]

Deliveries delayed until December

 

[JOB]

Deliveries delayed until December

None of us can be surprised. Hopefully positive news in the next fortnight.

 

[prjenns]

Just checked my production slot again and it is now November. So I started with September originally then got delayed into October, now it's supposedly November. Guess i'll just wait until they want my money

Have you received the latest email from Ineos? Earliest UK delivery is now from December 22......!

 

[DedkovCZE]

I get that email too now but some guys got it month ago.