What did you do with your Grenadier today?

[parb]

Water or petrol?

I can go either way. Right now i think this is going to be petrol.

 

[Tazzieman]

I can go either way. Right now i think this is going to be petrol.

You wouldn't have it there unless just offroad? Or would you?

 

[CRH]

I bet you feel so lucky to have a 23 model now. All this ADAS nanny state stuff.

I’ve heard conflicting advice saying that it’s needs no calibration. Someone said you can use calibration based on a Nissan.

All I know is it took 3 visits to Autoglass to calibrate my Jimny. A, it was lifted and B, it needed an original screen as it has pegs at the top corner to align and centre the windscreen. Some aftermarket windscreen don’t have pegs so they use shims. So if the installer didn’t align the windscreen properly to the camera enclosure, it will not calibrate. It’s down to the skill of the installer.

I heard someone in the Jimny forum that their E call error popped up. Probably due to non use and the battery is beyond dead. Cars are sitting around or doing shorter trips due to the fuel crisis. Dealer told him he needed a brand new E call module at a cost of £2000

So all this state of the art stuff definitely costs us motorists but the argument it saves people lives.

Exactly why I wanted to get an early model, knew all this cr@p was coming

 

[CRH]

I argue that lots of it doesn’t save lives. People become lazy or habituated to these nannies and it makes them unaware. Just watch how many people actually look around and use the mirrors and twist to back up. They don’t. They look at their center screen and keep going as long as it doesn’t beep at them. If you stray from your lane, the car fixes it for you. That leads us to become dependent on equipment that can fail, and causes us to fail ourselves. And everything gets so stupidly expensive. The biggest reason the Grenadier isn’t more of what we, the real consumer, actually want, is mostly because of all this garbage that’s mandated. The AC is weird - Give me some Freon and a slider that directly blends hot and cold. The car beeps when driving on back country roads- eliminate the lane wandering beep thing. No diesel in US. Annoying AdBlue everywhere else. UK gets plastic bumpers. No drivers side handle (according to local dealer for safety reasons). Aux lights need a stupid dance in the states. New Grenadiers give steering input. Etc.
All that aside - I love mine

You are saying what i have been telling people for a long time, people become complacent, it doesn't improve safety. My belief us they don't want us to see vehicle ownership as desirable or driving

 

[5teve]

I argue that lots of it doesn’t save lives. People become lazy or habituated to these nannies and it makes them unaware. Just watch how many people actually look around and use the mirrors and twist to back up. They don’t. They look at their center screen and keep going as long as it doesn’t beep at them. If you stray from your lane, the car fixes it for you. That leads us to become dependent on equipment that can fail, and causes us to fail ourselves. And everything gets so stupidly expensive. The biggest reason the Grenadier isn’t more of what we, the real consumer, actually want, is mostly because of all this garbage that’s mandated. The AC is weird - Give me some Freon and a slider that directly blends hot and cold. The car beeps when driving on back country roads- eliminate the lane wandering beep thing. No diesel in US. Annoying AdBlue everywhere else. UK gets plastic bumpers. No drivers side handle (according to local dealer for safety reasons). Aux lights need a stupid dance in the states. New Grenadiers give steering input. Etc.
All that aside - I love mine

I have a 25 Kia carnival, and although yes the tech is pretty amazing coming from older land Rovers it soon gets tiring. Fighting the steering all the time, ignoring the bings and bongs, having the brakes slam on because it doesn't think it's safe to go as well as a million other distractions... We are lucky in Aus (although I'm not sure about the 26 models) as ineos sell them as a commercial vehicle , not safety rated, so not required to have all the adas stuff or safety stuff... Just the bare minimum so you can actually drive it!

I now hate getting back in the Kia.

All this safety stuff being mandatory is not reducing our road tolls, people become complacent, lazy, unskilled etc and thing the tech will do it all. The only real way to make things safer really is 100% self driving interlinked cars. Hopefully I will never see the day that happens...

 

[The_Ick]

Added a vinyl map on the bottom of the cutting board. I'm hoping it will stay stuck through hot and cold temps.

 

[AngusMacG]

I can go either way. Right now i think this is going to be petrol.

Thats what “they” said

 

[HeavyFoot]

I have a 25 Kia carnival, and although yes the tech is pretty amazing coming from older land Rovers it soon gets tiring. Fighting the steering all the time, ignoring the bings and bongs, having the brakes slam on because it doesn't think it's safe to go as well as a million other distractions... We are lucky in Aus (although I'm not sure about the 26 models) as ineos sell them as a commercial vehicle , not safety rated, so not required to have all the adas stuff or safety stuff... Just the bare minimum so you can actually drive it!

I now hate getting back in the Kia.

All this safety stuff being mandatory is not reducing our road tolls, people become complacent, lazy, unskilled etc and thing the tech will do it all. The only real way to make things safer really is 100% self driving interlinked cars. Hopefully I will never see the day that happens...

You and me both. At that point driving cars will be eliminated by law. I hope to be long cold then.

 

[Mister_BevilAcqua]

I took it to the airport, and all of my pilot buddies geeked out over the small touches inside that are subtle nods to aviation. It's safe to say they gave it the stamp of approval.