Thought I would post my 2 cents no matter how cheap it might be 
on the Part one of the pod cast on you tube.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlRvuEyG5_M
I do want to thank all involved with getting this together for us and getting our questions out there!!!! Love the community for this.
First 30mins or so is discussing the Grenadier in general some cool take aways, however it quickly turns with the very first question asked. Number one voted question happens to be the User manuals for looking up parts and seeing explode diagrams. Too me it sounds like this is some new concept to have a part break down for users to access to get part numbers or see details of a part they are looking into. However this is done all over the place see example here: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=5T31-CHN-05-2016-F18N-BMW-528Li&diagId=12_1470 heck even has links to buy the part or parts directly. I looked at this as Ineos was going to be getting it out to market for use like other OEM providers. But it sounds like they are wanting to do something more with theirs?? Am I missing something on this topic? The other curiosity I have is if they have to be careful with the roll out and how many users are online, are they thinking this through very well? I know I have a large probability of getting some heat on this topic but I am an expert in Tier One services and building platforms for large user bases. Even if they aren't willing to take it to that level, there are things they can or maybe are doing to protect the dealership techs from not getting access due to us crazy nuts all logging in at one time. Rant over but its a very solvable problem even if Ineos just asks their industry community.
Next part that came thundering in around 40min mark was they complete directional change they are taking from their launch. From what I gather from the talk they planned to do a full mechanical vehicle (which we all know cannot be done now and be mass market due to many laws, rule and regulations) to what I think many anticipated was a greatly reduced dependency on electronics for operating the vehicle. However according to Lynn that direction change means we won't get deep access to the electronic systems because she thinks it will cause more problems than it helps. For those of us who could use the diagnostic equipment that is a bit of a slap in the face. I'd rather due what we do with many other OEM's pay for the license or allow 3rd parties to gain access. What we might see access too is basic maintenance items. What kinda has me worried here is I'm even wondering if the dealer truly has "access" or if it granted per use case meaning options of being a 3rd party service shop is either not on the roadmap or years down the road.
My Key Takeaways:
Lynn does sound genuine and they have delivered on many things like the software update, and starting to get access to the parts breakdowns.
I'm worried about their execution and handling of the Software controls. It doesn't seem customer focused. I'm worried their principles are to keep everything closed and limited access because they don't want the owner of the vehicle to do something to make something worse.
This only being part one and really one one question I hope there are some harder follow up questions being presented to Lynn in part 2.
I think they would benefit from getting or being apart of a principle engineering group for the industry. I have been apart of one and you would be more surprised about the sharing and support found in these alliances.
Okay let the roasting begin!!!
on the Part one of the pod cast on you tube. I do want to thank all involved with getting this together for us and getting our questions out there!!!! Love the community for this.
First 30mins or so is discussing the Grenadier in general some cool take aways, however it quickly turns with the very first question asked. Number one voted question happens to be the User manuals for looking up parts and seeing explode diagrams. Too me it sounds like this is some new concept to have a part break down for users to access to get part numbers or see details of a part they are looking into. However this is done all over the place see example here: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=5T31-CHN-05-2016-F18N-BMW-528Li&diagId=12_1470 heck even has links to buy the part or parts directly. I looked at this as Ineos was going to be getting it out to market for use like other OEM providers. But it sounds like they are wanting to do something more with theirs?? Am I missing something on this topic? The other curiosity I have is if they have to be careful with the roll out and how many users are online, are they thinking this through very well? I know I have a large probability of getting some heat on this topic but I am an expert in Tier One services and building platforms for large user bases. Even if they aren't willing to take it to that level, there are things they can or maybe are doing to protect the dealership techs from not getting access due to us crazy nuts all logging in at one time. Rant over but its a very solvable problem even if Ineos just asks their industry community.
Next part that came thundering in around 40min mark was they complete directional change they are taking from their launch. From what I gather from the talk they planned to do a full mechanical vehicle (which we all know cannot be done now and be mass market due to many laws, rule and regulations) to what I think many anticipated was a greatly reduced dependency on electronics for operating the vehicle. However according to Lynn that direction change means we won't get deep access to the electronic systems because she thinks it will cause more problems than it helps. For those of us who could use the diagnostic equipment that is a bit of a slap in the face. I'd rather due what we do with many other OEM's pay for the license or allow 3rd parties to gain access. What we might see access too is basic maintenance items. What kinda has me worried here is I'm even wondering if the dealer truly has "access" or if it granted per use case meaning options of being a 3rd party service shop is either not on the roadmap or years down the road.
My Key Takeaways:
Lynn does sound genuine and they have delivered on many things like the software update, and starting to get access to the parts breakdowns.
I'm worried about their execution and handling of the Software controls. It doesn't seem customer focused. I'm worried their principles are to keep everything closed and limited access because they don't want the owner of the vehicle to do something to make something worse.
This only being part one and really one one question I hope there are some harder follow up questions being presented to Lynn in part 2.
I think they would benefit from getting or being apart of a principle engineering group for the industry. I have been apart of one and you would be more surprised about the sharing and support found in these alliances.
Okay let the roasting begin!!!
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