Technical documentation!

[[ Adam ]]

I’m trying to work out a way of how I can collate the relevant information that I need for remote overland travel. Most of that manual won’t be needed by me. Like stripping transmission and engine. But wheel bearings , brakes suspension info etc I’m going to keep handy plus spare part numbers.
I’m trying to work out a way to easily file as taking screenshots and storing as photos is going to take way too much storage. Any ideas anybody. Convert photos to pdf maybe

This is an interesting thought - a subset of the content could be assembled (by us or Ineos) into a "Field workshop manual", a lightweight version of just the things that you'd probably be willing to attack in the field, focused on wear items, part numbers, torque specifications, etc. What would really kick-ass is if Ineos gave one out with every vehicle.

Man, that'd be cool.

 

[FlyersFan76]

Most manufacturers have "special" tools that are really designed to idiot-proof the procedure rather than make it impossible in the field. Land Rover used to have lots of bit of bent metal that were used to hold stuff in place while you tightened stuff up or bashed it with a hammer. An old Defender is maintainable with conventional hand tools, but having the factory tools made broken knuckles or bent bearing races less likely.

BMC/British Leyland/Austin Rover Group/Rover had a few tools that were absolutely essential if you wanted to pump up the Hydrogas units to set ride height or adjust the cam timing on an O-Series engine. Without the tool, it was essentially impossible. (There is a lovely couple in the UK who will service Hydrogas units on a door to door basis for Minis, Metros, MGF etc).

Tightening anything to 600Nm in the field is likely to be fraught with potential danger.

The Hummer had special tools for clearing fault codes related to the ABS.

Rubber hammer to hit the sensor back to the axle speed sensor and a small 18 gauge wire to jump 2 pins on the OBD II port with specific ignition key sequence. lol

 

[landmannnn]

Most manufacturers have "special" tools that are really designed to idiot-proof the procedure rather than make it impossible in the field. Land Rover used to have lots of bit of bent metal that were used to hold stuff in place while you tightened stuff up or bashed it with a hammer. An old Defender is maintainable with conventional hand tools, but having the factory tools made broken knuckles or bent bearing races less likely.

BMC/British Leyland/Austin Rover Group/Rover had a few tools that were absolutely essential if you wanted to pump up the Hydrogas units to set ride height or adjust the cam timing on an O-Series engine. Without the tool, it was essentially impossible. (There is a lovely couple in the UK who will service Hydrogas units on a door to door basis for Minis, Metros, MGF etc).

Tightening anything to 600Nm in the field is likely to be fraught with potential danger.

Even the old land Rovers had a special tool for loosening the hub nuts. Although a previous owner normally used a hammer and chisel

 

[CrazyOldMan]

Most manufacturers have "special" tools that are really designed to idiot-proof the procedure rather than make it impossible in the field. Land Rover used to have lots of bit of bent metal that were used to hold stuff in place while you tightened stuff up or bashed it with a hammer. An old Defender is maintainable with conventional hand tools, but having the factory tools made broken knuckles or bent bearing races less likely.

BMC/British Leyland/Austin Rover Group/Rover had a few tools that were absolutely essential if you wanted to pump up the Hydrogas units to set ride height or adjust the cam timing on an O-Series engine. Without the tool, it was essentially impossible. (There is a lovely couple in the UK who will service Hydrogas units on a door to door basis for Minis, Metros, MGF etc).

Tightening anything to 600Nm in the field is likely to be fraught with potential danger.

Yeah - I guess there is “special” (“makes it easier”), vs “special special” (“not a snowball’s chance in hell”). I was thinking more about “special special.”

 

[cdsvt]

Most manufacturers have "special" tools that are really designed to idiot-proof the procedure rather than make it impossible in the field. Land Rover used to have lots of bit of bent metal that were used to hold stuff in place while you tightened stuff up or bashed it with a hammer. An old Defender is maintainable with conventional hand tools, but having the factory tools made broken knuckles or bent bearing races less likely.

BMC/British Leyland/Austin Rover Group/Rover had a few tools that were absolutely essential if you wanted to pump up the Hydrogas units to set ride height or adjust the cam timing on an O-Series engine. Without the tool, it was essentially impossible. (There is a lovely couple in the UK who will service Hydrogas units on a door to door basis for Minis, Metros, MGF etc).

Tightening anything to 600Nm in the field is likely to be fraught with potential danger.

This is also my experience, at least with the vehicles I've worked on. Very few must have special tools that couldn't be worked around with some creativity. The tool to pressurize the hydraulic KDSS anti-sway bars on the Toyota/Lexus is the one exception that comes to mind.

 

[sayntzero]

Yes agreed and yesterday I struggled to get much of the info I need. It kept buffering and some pages I couldn’t load at all. May be too many users now have slowed the whole thing down. I got my access a few days back and it was much quicker to access the relevant pages.

Same issues here with failure to load or super slow responses. I initially thought the same thing - a lot of users slowing the system down. But, when it started asking me to allocate 2 gigs of local cache for the website, I reached out to some IT friends.

They have never seen anything like this. In their words "the website is asking the client (you) to handle a lot of stuff the server side (them) should be handling."

Can't imagine how this would work on a phone or with shaky internet.

I am really not trying to be negative here. I appreciate the effort. I am also calling it like I see it. I think this should be better.

Also, I understand that they are building the information as the truck is in the wild. I knew it was a snake when I preordered it. New car company, first year model.

Maybe I am spoiled by Toyota service manuals, but I still wish this delivered with a usable service manual like promised.

 

[INEOS OG]

Same issues here with failure to load or super slow responses. I initially thought the same thing - a lot of users slowing the system down. But, when it started asking me to allocate 2 gigs of local cache for the website, I reached out to some IT friends.

They have never seen anything like this. In their words "the website is asking the client (you) to handle a lot of stuff the server side (them) should be handling."

Can't imagine how this would work on a phone or with shaky internet.

I am really not trying to be negative here. I appreciate the effort. I am also calling it like I see it. I think this should be better.

Also, I understand that they are building the information as the truck is in the wild. I knew it was a snake when I preordered it. New car company, first year model.

Maybe I am spoiled by Toyota service manuals, but I still wish this delivered with a usable service manual like promised.

At least you got the email. Are they rolling the notifications out by delivery date? I ordered in September of ‘23 and took delivery in July of ‘24.

 

[INEOS OG]

....but the 12m "clock" begins from the date of the initial email.... wonderful (not).

Total BS. That said I am still waiting for the email.

 

[Clark Kent]

At least you got the email. Are they rolling the notifications out by delivery date? I ordered in September of ‘23 and took delivery in July of ‘24.

It's a bit random. I got my login overnight. I took delivery in July 2023. I think I was in the first batch of deliveries in Australia but certainly not part of the early crowd.
The UK, EU and AS markets all preceded the US yet it seems a number of owners in the US already have access so go figure.
Having spent an hour or so in the workshop manual this morning I will just say temper your excitement

 

[INEOS OG]

It's a bit random. I got my login overnight. I took delivery in July 2023. I think I was in the first batch of deliveries in Australia but certainly not part of the early crowd.
The UK, EU and AS markets all preceded the US yet it seems a number of owners in the US already have access so go figure.
Having spent an hour or so in the workshop manual this morning I will just say temper your excitement

Good to know, thanks. I am good being the last of the early adopters. I was just curious how they were letting us know. I do not have an urgent need.

 

[Clark Kent]

Good to know, thanks. I am good being the last of the early adopters. I was just curious how they were letting us know. I do not have an urgent need.

If you have registered and had an acknowledgement email with a ticket number you should get another email soonish with your username and password and a URL to access the docs library.

 

[Tazzieman]

There is the factory Porsche cambelt tensioning tool P9201. Most of us use the aftermarket version; 10% the price and it's more robust.
I'm sure some of these special tools can be reverse engineered and 3d printed, or we can fab our own workable solutions.
Half the fun of the actual job, really!
And sometimes you can get to bugger it up at no cost to yourself...