Rent a Grenadier from Hertz....

[wolftimj]

 

[FlyersFan76]

Would be interested in what locations have it. Wonder if they need additional insurance waiver also.

When I tried to get a Galendewagen from Hertz or Enterprise I need additional insurance. Of course I didn't know I should have picked up the phone to reserve it specifically and I would have been stuck with a Full Size Range Rover so I passed entirely.

 

[Tazzieman]

Grenadiers are easily damaged and with Hertz (and others), they are out to get you.
Even reasonable wear and tear is up to you to prove it's not "damage".
Source: Car and Driver https://share.google/gJUmB9JCpmNuefaSl

 

[MileHigh]

Grenadiers are easily damaged???

Uncomfortable? Are these the morons who complain about no seat electronic seat adjustments. I rent about 15 to 20 cars a year, and I take my Grenadier over almost everything. Especially for driving position.

Not totally a good sign. Having ones from a rental pool might hurt the resale value if there are a lot of them, or shows that they’re having a hard time selling them.

Not thrilled to buy a used rental, especially with one as complex as the Grenadier.

 

[LeftCoastOverland]

I bet they show up on Maui, and Kuai. Tourists are growing tired of their lifted Jeeps
Given the state of Maui after that last storm I reckon they'd actually see some mud.

 

[Tazzieman]

Grenadiers are easily damaged?

Body panels are very flimsy, shiny metallic paint scratches easily.
If you stick to the wide blacktop and avoid car parks on holiday you might be OK. We don't have those sorts of holidays.

 

[MileHigh]

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Body panels are very flimsy, shiny metallic paint scratches easily.
If you stick to the wide blacktop and avoid car parks on holiday you might be OK. We don't have those sorts of holidays.

flimsy body panels, compared to what, an Abrams tank? You know they didn’t invent their own paint, from what I understand it’s BASF automotive coatings.
I can understand your trepidation about renting from Hertz, but blaming the body panels and the paint on the Grenadier seems a bit off.

 

[Manzino]

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This is excellent.

 

[Tazzieman]

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flimsy body panels, compared to what, an Abrams tank? You know they didn’t invent their own paint, from what I understand it’s BASF automotive coatings.
I can understand your trepidation about renting from Hertz, but blaming the body panels and the paint on the Grenadier seems a bit off.

Most modern cars have flimsy panels; steel, alloy or plastic. You can dent them with your finger.
I am comparing them to 60s and 70s cars I own , where a tap with a hammer will have no effect and any modern car opening its door against mine will likely need bodywork.
Just a fact of the 21st century obsession with fuel economy and the shortage of panel beaters.
The Ineos, much as I love it, has a fragile shell.

 

[Jeff Olson]

I think this is great news.

We are flying to Dallas next week for a family reunion. I may be jumping the gun, but I will look to see if we can rent a Grenadier when we are there.

 

[Chem409]

I can’t wait until Hertz gets tired of them and decides to fire sale them like they have on other vehicles over the years… I’ll definitely be a buyer!!!

 

[Max]

Most modern cars have flimsy panels; steel, alloy or plastic. You can dent them with your finger.
I am comparing them to 60s and 70s cars I own , where a tap with a hammer will have no effect and any modern car opening its door against mine will likely need bodywork.
Just a fact of the 21st century obsession with fuel economy and the shortage of panel beaters.
The Ineos, much as I love it, has a fragile shell.

When asked if I wanted to have a Grenadier loan car at service time I chose not to purely because of the chances of a door opening on it or something similar.
It was a brand new Donny Grey Trialmaster with a $1000 insurance excess...that is what I would pay for a scratch/dent repair. That can happen just too easy with modern vehicle panels/paint and the clears that are applied. Remember when the line was 'that will buff out'

 

[C-Mack]

Hertz will have to quickly sell them on before they reach CV joint bursting mileage. I suspect they’ll have a few incidents and stranded customers. Plus, all the complaints from renters about the endless bongs and warming messages. Add to it they will be replacing windshields almost after every renter… it’ll be a fun experience for Hertz.

 

[Tazzieman]

Hertz will have to quickly sell them on before they reach CV joint bursting mileage. I suspect they’ll have a few incidents and stranded customers. Plus, all the complaints from renters about the endless bongs and warming messages. Add to it they will be replacing windshields almost after every renter… it’ll be a fun experience for Hertz.

Kust picked up a spare tyre from a Tassy owner who has done 80,000km, no cv problems, works in mining industry. No lift.
It's not a given your cv won't last.

 

[BluDawg]

It won’t be worse than when Hertz loaded up on Tesla’s then ditched them.

 

[Skydance]

I don’t know how many units have gone to Hertz but really cheap lease deals and rental cars will kill values when they liquidate in 3 years creating a surplus on the second hand market.

On the other hand I understand why, it’s a business and they need to shift stock.

 

[MileHigh]

I don’t know how many units have gone to Hertz but really cheap lease deals and rental cars will kill values when they liquidate in 3 years creating a surplus on the second hand market.

On the other hand I understand why, it’s a business and they need to shift stock.

And I want nothing to do with an IG that was a rental. Too many buttons and levers for some rental idiot to jack with. Rather marry a former prostitute.

Lots of rental places weren’t allowed to charge cars, or didn’t have the infrastructure. I always get a plug in Jeep with 0 battery.

Got a scratch in clear coat? Use a chapstick and run it along the line, and then use your finger to create some heat and fill it. Not permanent, but its a rental.

 

[Steve.B]

Body panels are very flimsy, shiny metallic paint scratches easily.
If you stick to the wide blacktop and avoid car parks on holiday you might be OK. We don't have those sorts of holidays.

They say they don't make cars like they used to, thank God they don't, modern cars are strong where they need to be, and crumple where needed to save your life.
Modern paint is far more resilient to scratching, unless you are talking Mercedes-Benz or Porsches of the past who both used Glasurit, advertised as stone proof paint at the time, and comparable to modern paint.
And modern cars don't self distruct in a couple of years like old cars due to rust.
I was a panel beater in the 70s and early 80s, and for a year in 1991, and repaired a lot of rust, modern panel beaters don't know what rust is.

 

[Tazzieman]

They say they don't make cars like they used to, thank God they don't, modern cars are strong where they need to be, and crumple where needed to save your life.
Modern paint is far more resilient to scratching, unless you are talking Mercedes-Benz or Porsches of the past who both used Glasuret, advertised as stone proof paint at the time, and comparable to modern paint.
And modern cars don't self distruct in a couple of years like old cars due to rust.
I was a panel beater in the 70s and early 80s, and for a year in 1991, and repaired a lot of rust, modern panel beaters don't know what rust is.

My collection of useable, used and durable oldies include 3 galvanised Glasurit painted P cars (78, 82, 85) , 2 60s Benzes (passuve safety features ahead of alnost all other makes) , a tough little 60s Fiat ( with minimal rust, vg quality steel) and a 73 Landy with tougher side panels than the 90s Defenders.
I'm not interested in rust/ body repairs by me or others - hence my choice of last century cars.
And clearly despite lack of ABS, other aids and the rest I'm brave enough to drive them all , in any weather!
The above said, the Ineos panels are IMO easily dented/ scratched . PPF helps, and I've done that!
Now, back to renting Grenadiers...or not

 

[Steve.B]

The 1960s Mercedes 320 SEL was a marvel of the times with real crumple zones and a very strong for the time passenger cell, and at that time the safest car in the world, unlike the over rated Volvo that was just a rigid lump. 911s are beautiful and a lot of fun, but relied on driver skill to avoid accidents, the 1972 / 1973 911 RS2.7 was something else, and now has a price tag to match.
I still have a 955 turbo, I am a Porsche fan, I had a Fiat 124 sport 1600 twin webber, and a Fiat 128 rally 1300, and of course I have a Grenadier, and I have had 4 Land Rovers, 3 series Land Rovers a 2 Lwb, a 2 SWB and a 2A LWB and a discovery 2 TD5 manual with ACE, so we must have some crossover in automotive taste Tazzieman.