Now a direct competitor for the old Defender

[lightning]

lt seems you can get a used Grenadier for just over £40,000 (there's a few on Auto Trader for £41,995)

That has encroached on the top end dealer prices of late model "Puma" Defenders in good condition/low mileage (ignoring the silly prices some are advertised for)

So now the Grenadier is an option for anyone considering an old Defender, although the price really needs to come down another £5,000 it's not much of a difference.

lf you can afford £35,000 you can probably afford £42,000

And you're buying a nearly new vehicle that has the spirit of the old Defender but is up to date. l've always said that the Grenadier is much more of an old Defender than the new Defender is.
It's what Land Rover should have done with the old Defender in my opinion.

But the new Defender has sold better than anything they've ever made so you can't argue with their logic.

Anyone who has owned the old Defender, will have no issues with the idiosyncrasies of the Grenadier. They'll call it character....a thing sadly lacking in most modern vehicles.
Land Rover spent thirty years not really updating the old Defender, in order to retain the "character", and it's great that lneos didn't engineer all the character out of the Grenadier.

We bought a new Defender in 2006. I went in to the dealer a few months later for some side steps.

Below is true, probably not the exact words but the conversation went pretty much as follows

Salesman
"How's the new Defender"
Me
"lt's going great, we love it"
Salesman
"I bet you were glad of it in the recent storms"
Me
"Yes it was great, went through a few rain storms, no leaks at all"
Salesman
"No leaks?"
Me
"No, nothing"
Salesman
"Bring it back in, it's faulty"

 

[IslandFalconer]

If I could find a clean Puma in Canada that wasn’t stupid money I’d buy one. They are not the same, not even close. The grenadier is laden with dumb tech that wasn’t asked for or need or proposed in the original version. I don’t need a computer to decide on diff locks, I don’t need off-road mode to create logic for activation of my systems. To the point I can’t use fog lights. Ineos implemented nonsense for the sake of it. ADAS when unneeded or required, TPMS that locks a wheel to a location, a “manual key” that is a push button without the button. There’s nothing useful about the modern amenities they’ve added

 

[lightning]

Sadly most of these "features" are law, certainly in the U.K. The latest is a
"Driver awareness monitoring" where it monitors you to make sure you're not falling asleep at the wheel.

 

[Cheshire cat]

I have owned an old Defender for over 20 years. (Still have it). For me, the Grenadier feels very much like its natural successor. Fortunately, the modern tech on my Grenadier has so far, caused me no issues. Might feel a bit different it had.
I do like the idiosyncrasies of the Grenadier and the fun had in trying to illuminate them.