Horsepower

[Roadking01]

Is everyone pretty satisfied with the HP stock? Or, with a mild with 35’s?

 

[Tazzieman]

Happy, even towing 2.6T.
Throttle controller gives punchy off the line/ overtaking performance, not that I'm a tyre chirper.

 

[Dokatd]

I am very satisfied with stock power and gears on 34/35's. But I come from a world of severely underpowered vehicles.

Agile now offers gear sets to regain some gearing after installing larger tires if you're going to be doing more severe offroad work or towing excessively heavy stuff.

If I was planning on really rock crawling this particular truck I would most certainly change gears. But I have other trucks for that and at that point we're just talking gearing not HP.

Remember, HP is what sustains speed not what gets you up to speed.

 

[Tenac]

Not happy at all with the power only when offroad and loaded for a weekend. I also have 35's it becomes a dog on the free way at passing speeds.

 

[Dokatd]

No happy at all with the power only when offroad and loaded for a weekend. I also have 35's it becomes a dog on the free way at passing speeds.

To be fair I do not load out my truck. You are probably the ideal candidate for Agiles gears.

 

[Tenac]

To be fair I do not load out my truck. You are probably the ideal candidate for Agiles gears.

I'll have to take a look didn't know they made a kit!! Only question I'd have is can I still set the cruise at 85-90mph on the interstate?

 

[Jeff Olson]

I am very happy with the horsepower and torque of my petrol Grenadier. It seems just right.

However, I would be even happier with a baby Duramax 3.0 L diesel, with 305 hp and 495 pound feet of torque. (My previous vehicle was a GMC Sierra 1500 Denali, and I averaged 27 MPG over the life of the truck, easily reaching the low 30s on the highway and never below the low 20s in traffic.)

I have owned a dozen or so BMW's over the past several decades, including three 7 Series with proper V8 engines. Nevertheless, the B58 I6 in the Grenadier seems appropriate, and it is very satisfying to me.

 

[Roadking01]

I am very satisfied with stock power and gears on 34/35's. But I come from a world of severely underpowered vehicles.

Agile now offers gear sets to regain some gearing after installing larger tires if you're going to be doing more severe offroad work or towing excessively heavy stuff.

If I was planning on really rock crawling this particular truck I would most certainly change gears. But I have other trucks for that and at that point we're just talking gearing not HP.

Remember, HP is what sustains speed not what gets you up to speed.

Not happy at all with the power only when offroad and loaded for a weekend. I also have 35's it becomes a dog on the free way at passing speeds.

That is what I was wondering. Since we are living in the Golden Age of HP, seems a little skinny for a heavy vehicle in daily routine life.

 

[Tenac]

That is what I was wondering. Since we are living in the Golden Age of HP, seems a little skinny for a heavy vehicle in daily routine life.

If you ask me if Ineos did a +30/30 or better yet a +50/50 the grenny would be perfect...... This drivetrain is well overbuilt for that much HP/TQ increase.

 

[abbeyroad]

That is what I was wondering. Since we are living in the Golden Age of HP, seems a little skinny for a heavy vehicle in daily routine life.

My ev daily does 200+ mph and the 1/4 mile in the low 9s. I don't feel any power envy driving my bone stock IG.

 

[Roadking01]

My ev daily does 200+ mph and the 1/4 mile in the low 9s. I don't feel any power envy driving my bone stock IG.

I get it. Each to their own. My current dailys have 405 and 720. Was just wondering with that motor,. It could be tweaked for 350 +.

 

[abbeyroad]

I get it. Each to their own. My current dailys have 405 and 720. Was just wondering with that motor,. It could be tweaked for 350 +.

B58 can take a heckuva lot of software power, but then you'd have to figure out how all the rest of the components will handle the added wear/tear including brakes, cooling system, transmission, tc/diffs all the while obliterating your 5 year factory warranty.

Juice not worth squeeze imho.

 

[Tenac]

I get it. Each to their own. My current dailys have 405 and 720. Was just wondering with that motor,. It could be tweaked for 350 +.

Yeah the power to weight ratio of the grenny being about .048HP, and those two puddle jumpers makes one feel rocket ship and horse and buggy. lol

 

[INEOS OG]

I was but I opted for a tuner for better fuel economy that boosts horsepower and fuel efficiency by 20% and bumping the HP to 284 and 423 pounds feet of torque.

 

[INEOS OG]

B58 can take a heckuva lot of software power, but then you'd have to figure out how all the rest of the components will handle the added wear/tear including brakes, cooling system, transmission, tc/diffs all the while obliterating your 5 year factory warranty.

Juice not worth squeeze imho.

The B58 isn't the choke point. The ZF trans in the petrol engine is.

 

[abbeyroad]

The B58 isn't the choke point. The ZF trans in the petrol engine is.

whut?

 

[INEOS OG]

whut?

The B58 (gas engine) has the ZF 8HP51 (3rd Gen). Its a great transmission, but the max torque rating on this version of the ZF 8-speed is 500 nm or 369 lb-ft of torque.

Paired with a 6,000 pound cage means over tuning will kill your ZF box in pretty short order.

 

[abbeyroad]

The B58 (gas engine) has the ZF 8HP51 (3rd Gen). Its a great transmission, but the max torque rating on this version of the ZF 8-speed is 500 nm or 369 lb-ft of torque.

Paired with a 6,000 pound cage means over tuning will kill your ZF box in pretty short order.

But I never said the B58 is the choke point. lmao ya dig?

 

[INEOS OG]

But I never said the B58 is the choke point. lmao ya dig?

I never suggested you did. Just because you can doesn't mean you should (enless you want a tow home).

 

[abbeyroad]

I never suggested you did. Just because you can doesn't mean you should (enless you want a tow home)