I know all cars have issues but are the ones with the Ineos more electrical, cosmetic or engine/running gear.
Longevity is hard to say until we get there. However, lets look at what we know.
- Ineos has less OEM than most vehicles. It utilises numerous third-party manufacturers for components that enthusiasts and professionals add to their vehicles after purchase. That is in part why the Grenadier is more expensive.
- The body is solid and that is clear for all to see.
- The B57/B58 engines have good reliability, and the Ineos version is tuned differently for reliability and torque. The B57/B58 engines have gone through 100k easily enough on BMWs but . We don't know how the IG version is going to last. Detuning it should help. However, the engine is dealing with much heavier vehicles and more extreme angles and vibration.
The vehicle is now in its third year of manufacturing, and early faults and issues that were seen on MY22 & MY23 have seen most ironed out with MY23.5 and MY24 and the current MY25. However, some persist.
- Software has come a long way across the model years, but it can still be prone to throwing up false positive fault warnings that will not be there on the next restart. The newer software versions have very few issues in that respect. However, Ineos forked the software with MY24, and some of the fixes seen on the software fork for the MY24 have not been applied to the MY23.5 or earlier.
- HVAC - this is probably the most common issue but most have found that delaying the start by a few seconds to allow the HVAC to cycle through its startup avoids the issue. Some have found their reservoirs needed filling, and that fixes it.
- There are some minor common issues, but they don't affect everyone but that is probably no different to any car.
We are on a farm. Although it's equestrian nowadays. The Grenadier replaced a 2015 Defender (last of the line). We have four tractors. The Grenadier tows the horse trailers; it pulls the muck trailers into sloppy clay fields in winter. It goes down farm tracks which are often very rutted from the tractors. We use it to pick up the feeds and bedding.
We are coming up to the first year of ownership and issues in that first year have been: Rear parking sensor failed (nearest one sticks on if you are in reverse) - that issue has been repeated with some other owners but fixed with replacement sensors. A heating valve flaps when it's very cold and the heating is working very hard (but not at any other time). This issue again has happened with several others and ironically, with one of our dealers' quartermaster. That is still waiting for sign-off for a fix from Ineos. A cracked windscreen - lots of reports of cracked windscreens and they do seem to crack in the same place. However, my windscreen repairer said that vehicles with no seals on their windscreen often suffer more cracks, as it exposes the weak spot of a window to impacts (i.e., a stone thrown up bounces across the bonnet and then is fired upwards into the outer edge of the windscreen). It also has aircon condensation leaking on passenger side. A known issue that is fixed on newer builds but there is a TSB to fix it on older builds (which is to lag the pipe so it doesn't condensate). That will be done at the next service on mine.
I delayed my purchase of the Grenadier as it didn't want a first or second year version as there is a risk of being an early adopter. I had a year one Audi once and it was in the dealer over 15 times in the first year. So, I waited for year three before getting mine.
It does what I need it to do on my equestrian farm. I don't know what you will need it for on yours. What we have found is that we use it quite frequently for daily purposes. Much more than I expected I would. Its 3pm UK time as I post this, and this morning it took the dogs to dog training, then picked up some bedding and feeds. After lunch, it towed the 3.5t muck trailer to the current muck field down summer clay rutted tracks, and it's currently out with my wife using it on the supermarket run. I only expected to do towing and picking up bedding/feeds and the rest of the time sit there. It's proven to be more versatile as a daily driver than I thought.
