Hello everyone!

[FernandoBcn]

Glad to have found this group. My name is Fernando and I’m planning a trip to circumnavigate the African continent by road, starting from Tangier and ending in Egypt.
I’m looking for a very reliable vehicle for this adventure and I’m hesitating between a Land Cruiser 79 Series and a Grenadier. I’ve driven the Land Cruiser quite a bit in Africa and I think it’s an amazing vehicle; the only reason I might not choose it is that it’s difficult to buy one in Europe. That’s why I’m seriously considering the Grenadier: as a vehicle I find it fantastic, but I’m concerned that a car in that price range has so much electronics, and about the issues I’ve been reading about, and in the places I’m going I need maximum reliability.
I’m here to learn as much as possible about the Grenadier and to finally make up my mind. Any advice or experience will be very welcome.

 

[Krabby]

Welcome Fernando! You've certainly found the right place for all things Grenadier. Poke around the existing threads and use the search function to track down some specific things.

Several members - including @Logsplitter (Africa) and @Matt P (the globe) have extensive travel use and can offer honest feedback as they've experienced something like this for real. It's a complex question and I'm sure there will be lots of activity in this thread so take everything with a grain of salt.

 

[Zimm]

I'd get a 1986 Mercedes 240d.

 

[CRH]

I'd get a 1986 Mercedes 240d.

You watch too many Top Gear re-runs

 

[Zimm]

You watch too many Top Gear re-runs

sold me...

After 40 years of wheeling, I've found the single biggest limiting factor to using any vehicle anywhere, is the drivers willingness to bend sheet metal. Once you get over that, everything is an overlanding rig.

 

[CRH]

sold me...

After 40 years of wheeling, I've found the single biggest limiting factor to using any vehicle anywhere, is the drivers willingness to bend sheet metal. Once you get over that, everything is an overlanding rig.

View: https://youtu.be/wUbzW9-JcTA?si=4aM-5pJ7RfROCL6q

7.15 and after, proves your point perfectly

 

[OkGo]

Get a 2007 100series 1hd-fte, it has more space inside than the Grenadier, same size outside - more reliable, and unlike the Grenadier it actually has a great Aircon system.

The modern day 79 is a narrow focus utility, imho. It does lend itself to a flip top with a lot of space inside, but ...

Get the 100, baseline it, parts are easy to find anywhere in the world, most places will have mechanics who know it. Drive it, come back and sell it for about the same price you pay for it.

 

[TheDocAUS]

Glad to have found this group. My name is Fernando and I’m planning a trip to circumnavigate the African continent by road, starting from Tangier and ending in Egypt.
I’m looking for a very reliable vehicle for this adventure and I’m hesitating between a Land Cruiser 79 Series and a Grenadier. I’ve driven the Land Cruiser quite a bit in Africa and I think it’s an amazing vehicle; the only reason I might not choose it is that it’s difficult to buy one in Europe. That’s why I’m seriously considering the Grenadier: as a vehicle I find it fantastic, but I’m concerned that a car in that price range has so much electronics, and about the issues I’ve been reading about, and in the places I’m going I need maximum reliability.
I’m here to learn as much as possible about the Grenadier and to finally make up my mind. Any advice or experience will be very welcome.

@Logsplitter , @globalgregors and @Matt P are the people to speak too. They are have done or are currently on long remote trips. Logsplitter having done parts of Africa.

 

[FernandoBcn]

@Logsplitter, @globalgregors y @Matt P son las personas con las que debes hablar. Han realizado o están realizando actualmente largos viajes a zonas remotas. Logsplitter, por ejemplo, ha recorrido parte de África.

¡Muchísimas gracias por esta información tan útil!

 

[FernandoBcn]

¡Bienvenido, Fernando! Sin duda has dado con el lugar perfecto para todo lo relacionado con Grenadier. Explora los hilos existentes y usa la función de búsqueda para encontrar información específica.

Varios miembros, entre ellos @Logsplitter (África) y @Matt P (el mundo), tienen amplia experiencia viajando y pueden ofrecer opiniones sinceras, ya que han vivido algo similar. Es una pregunta compleja y seguramente habrá mucha actividad en este hilo, así que no se fíen de todo lo que digan.

Thanks!

 

[FernandoBcn]

Ver: https://youtu.be/wUbzW9-JcTA?si=4aM-5pJ7RfROCL6q

A partir del 7.15, eso demuestra perfectamente tu punto.

Sure, all of this is very nice when you know that with a WhatsApp or a simple phone call someone can come and rescue you. But things change exponentially when you’re alone in the middle of nowhere, in hostile terrain, with no signal and days away from encountering another human being.

 

[FernandoBcn]

Consigue un 100series 1hd-fte del 2007, tiene más espacio interior que el Grenadier, el mismo tamaño exterior, es más fiable y, a diferencia del Grenadier, tiene un sistema de aire acondicionado excelente.

En mi opinión, la 79 moderna es una camioneta utilitaria de enfoque limitado. Si bien se presta para una capota abatible con mucho espacio interior, ...

Compra el 100, hazle una revisión básica, las piezas son fáciles de encontrar en cualquier parte del mundo y en la mayoría de los sitios encontrarás mecánicos que lo conozcan. Úsalo, vuelve y véndelo por prácticamente el mismo precio que pagaste.

Gracias por la información, la tendré en cuenta. No sé el modelo exacto; ¿tiene bloqueos de diferencial delantero y trasero? Viajaremos solos y gran parte del trayecto atravesaremos zonas con mucho barro y arena profunda.

 

[Logsplitter]

Glad to have found this group. My name is Fernando and I’m planning a trip to circumnavigate the African continent by road, starting from Tangier and ending in Egypt.
I’m looking for a very reliable vehicle for this adventure and I’m hesitating between a Land Cruiser 79 Series and a Grenadier. I’ve driven the Land Cruiser quite a bit in Africa and I think it’s an amazing vehicle; the only reason I might not choose it is that it’s difficult to buy one in Europe. That’s why I’m seriously considering the Grenadier: as a vehicle I find it fantastic, but I’m concerned that a car in that price range has so much electronics, and about the issues I’ve been reading about, and in the places I’m going I need maximum reliability.
I’m here to learn as much as possible about the Grenadier and to finally make up my mind. Any advice or experience will be very welcome.

If you look up the thread. Logsplitter’s travels in his Grenadier. You can see about my exploits from 2023/2024 in my Grenadier during six months in Southern Africa. It’s all there inc any faults with the Grenadier.
I’ve travelled extensively many times in Africa as have a few others on the forum. In 2019 I travelled from Europe down to Southern Guinea and back up In a defender. Have lived in Malawi and done extensive travels in Mozambique.
I Can help if you want ideas and myself and others on what to look out for with the Grenadier.
There’s plenty on this forum re any issues you may encounter with the Grenadier.
I have to say that with any issues I did have with the Grenadier Ineos were great in sorting me out under warranty. That’s quite reassuring!

 

[Matt P]

We’re now in direct contact.

 

[FernandoBcn]

Localizado, ¡ya me he dado de baja de Netflix! Tengo muchas ganas de leerlo.
Si no te importa, cuando esté más informado te haré algunas preguntas, porque tengo muchas dudas…
Por ejemplo: como sabes, las gasolinaras escasean en distancias muy largas y el Grenadier solo tiene 90l con reserva, y consume unos 18 l/100 en arena. ¿Llevas el depósito ampliado?
En mi caso quiero montar una tienda en el techo y es complicado llevar jerricans por peso y espacio…

 

[FernandoBcn]

Ahora estamos en contacto directo.

¡Hola Matt! ¡Gracias por recomendarme este foro!