TSB Footwell Water Ingress - cabin filter IATSB002996

[Ex-defender driver]

This will not fix the issue. I'm of the view it's straight up condensate forming on the AC duct where insulation is not present and dripping straight down the centre console plastics on to my feet. There are a few threads on this and findings I thought suggested this was the issue and the fix requires a removal of dash plastics to give access to AC ducting...

This is what my dealer did

 

[RYAustralia]

Hi.
I have been having ongoing issues with water coming into the passenger footwell from the aircon. My car has been back to the dealers many times for this - but yesterday I was informed about a factory recall.
See attached FYI.
I hope this helps.
Cheers

My local agent / dealer did that to mine nearly a year ago and it’s been mostly fine ever since. In the worst of the humidity we had one trip where my wife complained of a tiny bit of water. That’s it for 12+ months.

 

[OGrid]

My vehicle spent a week at the service centre last week on the continuing HVAC issues. Looks like more wrapping on the pipes were done, similar to the post above by Larry.

20 minutes after picking the vehicle up and driving away water was again seen forming in the footwell. Not the occasional drip, but enough water to make anything in the footwell quite waterlogged.

IA being consulted, again.

I think there is the condensation issue, and another one, which myself and others are encountering.

 

[Skydance]

My vehicle spent a week at the service centre last week on the continuing HVAC issues. Looks like more wrapping on the pipes were done, similar to the post above by Larry.

20 minutes after picking the vehicle up and driving away water was again seen forming in the footwell. IA being consulted, again.

Insulating the pipe is just a temporary fix. It doesn’t fix the initial core problem. It’s a bit like Ineos punching holes in the lower rubber door seals rather than fitting the seals properly in the first place.

I’ve managed to fix mine by simply, first thing in the morning, prop up engine bay to service position (highest point). Top up both coolant reservoirs to the max level indicator ensuring both sides are equal. Surprising how much coolant needs topping. Coolant level has gone down as air has been displaced. This should work. If it doesn’t, carry out a bleed procedure, wait until engine is stone cold (following day) and then top up coolant to max level. It has worked for me, in the summer of 2023, 2024 I used to get drips down the side the central dash onto the passenger mat, condensation on the windscreen during heavy rain and condensation (icing up) on the outside in winter (centre lower windscreen).

Luckily I have rubber mats. Been back to dealers twice and Ineos said no fix. Had the HVAC unit changed and still the same. Early 2025, seen a post on here about checking coolant as some engine had over heated and I discovered that my coolant tank was only 3/4 full on one side and nearly full on the other.

During the last month, the weather has been great for us in the UK, I can report no more drips.

 

[RYAustralia]

Insulating the pipe is just a temporary fix. It doesn’t fix the initial core problem. It’s a bit like Ineos punching holes in the lower rubber door seals rather than fitting the seals properly in the first place.

I’ve managed to fix mine by simply, first thing in the morning, prop up engine bay to service position (highest point). Top up both coolant reservoirs to the max level indicator ensuring both sides are equal. Surprising how much coolant needs topping. Coolant level has gone down as air has been displaced. This should work. If it doesn’t, carry out a bleed procedure, wait until engine is stone cold (following day) and then top up coolant to max level. It has worked for me, in the summer of 2023, 2024 I used to get drips down the side the central dash onto the passenger mat, condensation on the windscreen during heavy rain and condensation (icing up) on the outside in winter (centre lower windscreen).

Luckily I have rubber mats. Been back to dealers twice and Ineos said no fix. Had the HVAC unit changed and still the same. Early 2025, seen a post on here about checking coolant as some engine had over heated and I discovered that my coolant tank was only 3/4 full on one side and nearly full on the other.

During the last month, the weather has been great for us in the UK, I can report no more drips.

Mine goes in to dealers for some work today. I’ll ask them to do that on mine too.

 

[GN4HIR]

Insulating the pipe is just a temporary fix. It doesn’t fix the initial core problem. It’s a bit like Ineos punching holes in the lower rubber door seals rather than fitting the seals properly in the first place.

I’ve managed to fix mine by simply, first thing in the morning, prop up engine bay to service position (highest point). Top up both coolant reservoirs to the max level indicator ensuring both sides are equal. Surprising how much coolant needs topping. Coolant level has gone down as air has been displaced. This should work. If it doesn’t, carry out a bleed procedure, wait until engine is stone cold (following day) and then top up coolant to max level. It has worked for me, in the summer of 2023, 2024 I used to get drips down the side the central dash onto the passenger mat, condensation on the windscreen during heavy rain and condensation (icing up) on the outside in winter (centre lower windscreen).

Luckily I have rubber mats. Been back to dealers twice and Ineos said no fix. Had the HVAC unit changed and still the same. Early 2025, seen a post on here about checking coolant as some engine had over heated and I discovered that my coolant tank was only 3/4 full on one side and nearly full on the other.

During the last month, the weather has been great for us in the UK, I can report no more drips.

Sorry Sky, but that makes zero sense. You might be solving some other problem but this problem, water dripping out one side of the center console and into the footwell, is simple condensation caused by a cold pipe in contact with hot humid air. Period. Wrapping the pipe should work if they keep the hot humid air from coming into direct contact with the cold pipe. Anyone that has put a cold bottle or canned beverage in a cupholder of a hot humid car has seen the same phenomenon, hence the proliferation of novelty Koozies (can wraps).

 

[Skydance]

Sorry Sky, but that makes zero sense. You might be solving some other problem but this problem, water dripping out one side of the center console and into the footwell, is simple condensation caused by a cold pipe in contact with hot humid air. Period. Wrapping the pipe should work if they keep the hot humid air from coming into direct contact with the cold pipe. Anyone that has put a cold bottle or canned beverage in a cupholder of a hot humid car has seen the same phenomenon, hence the proliferation of novelty Koozies (can wraps).


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It does make sense because it works on mine. It use to leak everyday onto the rubber mat but not ever since. Not every Grenadier leaks. The ones that do are not missing some sort of insulation around the pipes. It’s not a core issue fix and Ineos currently cannot explain why some do and some don’t. I’m not saying wrapping the pipe in insulation doesn’t work either. But I bet if it’s too hot, eventually it will start dripping again albeit not as often.

My explanation and why I tried this. The system has to find the right dew point so that it will not condensate. There are two coolant tanks, high and low pressure. Both tanks need to be balanced like my old central heating boilers and radiators.

Not all cars have two coolant tanks. So give it a try as you nothing to lose and tell me if works or not. I really don’t mind because I fixed it and no more drips.

 

[IslandFalconer]

It does make sense because it works on mine. It use to leak everyday onto the rubber mat but not ever since. Not every Grenadier leaks. The ones that do are not missing some sort of insulation around the pipes. It’s not a core issue fix and Ineos currently cannot explain why some do and some don’t. I’m not saying wrapping the pipe in insulation doesn’t work either. But I bet if it’s too hot, eventually it will start dripping again albeit not as often.

My explanation and why I tried this. The system has to find the right dew point so that it will not condensate. There are two coolant tanks, high and low pressure. Both tanks need to be balanced like my old central heating boilers and radiators.

Not all cars have two coolant tanks. So give it a try as you nothing to lose and tell me if works or not. I really don’t mind because I fixed it and no more drips.

That’s almost impossible, the ac and heat system don’t even use the same lines or cores. It’s an impossibility to resolve a/c line condensation while topping up coolant in the heater and engine cooling systems.