Diesel powered to US

[Logsplitter]

I had to look up actionless action as I was being a bit dim.

 

[Tom109]

They days of owning a diesel the US have passed. Modern diesel emission systems are simply not worth the hassle. Petrol all the way.

 

[globalgregors]

I had to look up actionless action as I was being a bit dim. View attachment 7903558

LOL self-mockery intended only. Jerry cans, maxtrax and a basic toolkit way more useful than philosophy when it comes to the crunch.

 

[FlyersFan76]

They days of owning a diesel the US have passed. Modern diesel emission systems are simply not worth the hassle. Petrol all the way.

We can also thank the owners of the company Electrify America for leaving a bad taste in the mouths of US buyers.

The US was making big strides of getting Diesel vehicles back but...

 

[scottg]

Totally true, that was very doctrinaire wasn’t it? The internet so quickly boils down to a debate about specifications.
You are spot on @Logsplitter - one’s preference is only that and honestly it’s irrelevant once you’ve committed either way.

Is this a good time for a little essay on adventure travel and dwelling in the actionless action?

Doctrinaire? I had to look that up: "stubbornly or excessively devoted to a doctrine or theory without regard to practical considerations". I can't speak for others, but no doctrine here as I don't care either way, but I've read that those are/were issues, which is apparently older information given the above responses and I'm happy to update my understanding. I'm new to all this and haven't any experience in these areas, so if I'm to be labeled it would be accurate to call me ignorant, not doctrinaire

 

[scottg]

LOL self-mockery intended only. Jerry cans, maxtrax and a basic toolkit way more useful than philosophy when it comes to the crunch.

HA! I love that Wu-wei stuff. I often suggest to friends, "Don't do something, just stand there!" Many times not doing something is better and safer than acting. I have no clue when to deploy which philosophy in each situation, however.

 

[scottg]

We can also thank the owners of the company Electrify America for leaving a bad taste in the mouths of US buyers.

The US was making big strides of getting Diesel vehicles back but...

I think we in the US have gone too far in all this. I think it's great that the push for cleaner air and water leads to cleaner tech, solar power, etc., but there's a balance to be had. We also have a tendency to (human nature) to overreact to bad events. E.g. a few civil servants spend lavishly in Vegas on tax funds on a gig, and suddenly all civil servants have to go through onerous paperwork and permissions to even go to a local conference. The costs incurred from that reaction far exceeded any savings from stopping stupid people from doing the wrong thing. Just my opinion as a 36 year retired fed. If some segment wants to have a diesel, let them.

 

[scottg]

No, all good - it’s a question worth asking:

• Diesel can be carried and handled more safely. In Australia it is permitted (and safe) to be carried inside the loadspace. Refueling by hand, where spills can easily occur, is generally regarded (fairly or not) as safer with diesel.
• Petrol shouldn’t be carried inside the passenger/loadspace compartment. Only outside in an approved container.
• Diesel offers a 20-35% range advantage over petrol for a similar engine/tank capacity.
• Diesel generates more torque at a lower rpm. The engine is working less for a given load which is a benefit for towing, for operating temperatures (and therefore performance in high ambient temperature and sand), and for fuel consumption (see above).
• Diesels have a reduced number of hv electrical components, with compression ignition they tend to hold out a bit longer in deep water. They will obviously still hydrolock if the intake is swamped!
• Diesel is widely available on stations (ranches) and mining operations in remote Australia, and world wide trucks can be an emergency source if required. These days it’s rarely an issue finding petrol though!
• Diesel used to be somewhat cheaper (less so now).

So mostly it’s a matter of practicality and availability rather than any problem with petrol quality.

(Downsides: they are heavier, more expensive, crippled by emissions systems requirements, more polluting, usually noisier, and less sporting in nature)

"Diesel offers a 20-35% range advantage over petrol for a similar engine/tank capacity" -- that I did not know, and I can see it as an advantage if your use case is long range overland trips.