BMW M 340 motor

[Roadking01]

Yesterday, Ineos Grenadier’s, Instagram page posted a video of an IG with BMW M motor with 382 hp. It seems to have now been removed. Signs of things to come? I like it, if true

 

[Ragman]

Great, an M version to compete with the AMG Gwagon, just what I have been hoping for...not
On a similar note though Lynn Calder, during an interview, did mention that INEOS was looking at some limited edition (not sure that how she said it) versions taking into account comments back from the market which I took to mean factory 35s etc.

 

[Roadking01]

Coming to a country club near you . Personally, I think that with a new vehicle which has to compete with other brands, it is no problem adding some variety to boost sales. I’m sure you can add or not add like the rest of the options. I mean people are complaining about where to put their coffee cups and they can’t find the keyhole

 

[[ Adam ]]

Cool - the more on the road, the easier it will be to find spares in 10 years. I'm all for the expansion of Grenadiers in the marketplace.

 

[anand]

Another easy way to achieve the same power is through an ECU reflash

 

[DaveB]

Coming to a country club near you . Personally, I think that with a new vehicle which has to compete with other brands, it is no problem adding some variety to boost sales. I’m sure you can add or not add like the rest of the options. I mean people are complaining about where to put their coffee cups and they can’t find the keyhole

In our right hand drive vehicles we have to insert the key with our left hand, and I have still never had a problem, day or night.
Two cupholders in the front should be more than enough to hold drinks, however none in the back caused a 1 minute problem for my daughter last weekend.
She put her drink bottle in the door pocket instead.

 

[Tazzieman]

You're pokin' the bear Dave!
But a special needs edition will be on the horizon

 

[Lord Ripon USA]

I’m pretty sure they have figured out their two biggest North American market problems. One, is that the spartan concept has you competing with the taco crowd, and two, whether complicated or simple, the North American market place is not very tolerant if the stuff doesn’t work.

it only makes sense to add the normal set of North American market features for every other $100,000 SUV out there, and get your orders where you can. They are all going to be special ordered anyway, so you’re not going to be sitting on boats full of inventory that are not pre-sold.
it might actually be easier, because you’re into the third or fourth production year and most of these niggling things should be gone by then.

A posh version with matte paint, upgraded interior, chipped motor, heated steering wheel, purpose built stereo, console cooler, headlight washers, will put far more beans per sale into their pot. All of which is mature technology. Off the shelf more than likely.

I know that seems like sacrilege, but, I was shooting driven grouse for a month last year, and quietly queried a number of the “beautiful people” on the moor. (Most riding around in chauffeured Land Rovers). There were many strong, but clear opinions.

 

[Jeremy996]

They can do anything they want to the Grenadier to get it sold, provided they support the original platform properly!

I am (will be) a long term owner, so as long as I can keep my truck on the road I will be happy. If parts become obsolete I need a workaround, if software is redeveloped, it either needs to work on the existing platform or there is an easy upgrade path to a new architecture. If they have to abandon a particular path, the IP/Hardware/Software needs to go Open Source so the aftermarket can support it.

If blingy versions are the cost of more sales, then go for it! I won't buy one, I've bought mine.

So more power, more luxury, more gears, 6x6, firefighting conversions with a cannon, drop-in camper conversions, bars, mechanical support wagons, whatever!

(I'd be tempted with a drop-in electrical conversion, say 2 motor 4x4 with 400 miles range and fast recharging, but I guess it is technically impossible at the moment).

What Land Rover got right with the old (pre 2016) Defender was that most enhancements from the early 110s/90s to the last of the Tdcis could be retrofitted, (or at least hacked about until they looked like it fitted), and most of the build and running data was comparatively easily found. I appreciate that amateurs restyling vehicles for their own uses really annoyed Gerry McGovern, and it did not make JLR money, but it does not have to be that way, (just manage your IP properly).

I'm told that a wind deflector is being added to the accessories range, so I'll buy them, a ladder and some fixings to hold a farm jack and a rigid tow bar and be content. I don't need more power or more luxury.

 

[AWo]

I appreciate that amateurs restyling vehicles for their own uses really annoyed Gerry McGovern, and it did not make JLR money, but it does not have to be that way.

+1

AWo

 

[Roadking01]

I’m pretty sure they have figured out their two biggest North American market problems. One, is that the spartan concept has you competing with the taco crowd, and two, whether complicated or simple, the North American market place is not very tolerant if the stuff doesn’t work.

it only makes sense to add the normal set of North American market features for every other $100,000 SUV out there, and get your orders where you can. They are all going to be special ordered anyway, so you’re not going to be sitting on boats full of inventory that are not pre-sold.
it might actually be easier, because you’re into the third or fourth production year and most of these niggling things should be gone by then.

A posh version with matte paint, upgraded interior, chipped motor, heated steering wheel, purpose built stereo, console cooler, headlight washers, will put far more beans per sale into their pot. All of which is mature technology. Off the shelf more than likely.

I know that seems like sacrilege, but, I was shooting driven grouse for a month last year, and quietly queried a number of the “beautiful people” on the moor. (Most riding around in chauffeured Land Rovers). There were many strong, but clear opinions.

Anyone who has been shooting driven grouse for a month is one of thr “beautiful people”

 

[Lord Ripon USA]

Anyone who has been shooting driven grouse for a month is one of thr “beautiful people”

It doesn’t feel that way when I pay for it.
I truly do wish the Grenadier had a package that boosts the creature comforts up to 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee standards.

 

[Milliemartha35]

Great, an M version to compete with the AMG Gwagon, just what I have been hoping for...not
On a similar note though Lynn Calder, during an interview, did mention that INEOS was looking at some limited edition (not sure that how she said it) versions taking into account comments back from the market which I took to mean factory 35s etc.

They’re going to do an alpina tuned variant next year

 

[S52]

Ill raise my hand the other direction. Give me a even more stripped down grenadier and I’d be a happier camper. 2 door short wheelbase, 5 speed manual, no digital screen/ electronics just analog gauge cluster and a single din slot so I can fit my own stereo head unit.

Please and thank you!

Ineos if you need some inspiration look no further than a 70’s Classic RR!

 

[Tenac]

Yesterday, Ineos Grenadier’s, Instagram page posted a video of an IG with BMW M motor with 382 hp. It seems to have now been removed. Signs of things to come? I like it, if true

There is no such thing as an M motor for BMW. The B58 platform has slight changes and mostly changes in the tuning itself from vehicle to vehicle.

Here is BMW's Range of motors.

• M Series: Engines built before 2001.
• N Series: Represent "New Generation" engines produced approximately from 2001 to 2014. These were standard production engines during that period.
• B Series: Modular engines engineered since 2013. They are part of the EfficientDynamics family, emphasizing a blend of power and fuel economy.
• S Series: High-performance engines developed by BMW's M division for their road cars. Examples include the S54B32 from the E46 M3 and the S58, a high-performance version of the B58 engine.
• P Series: Officially designated for motorsports racing engines.

 

[landmannnn]

There is no such thing as an M motor for BMW. The B58 platform has slight changes and mostly changes in the tuning itself from vehicle to vehicle.

Here is BMW's Range of motors.

• M Series: Engines built before 2001.
• N Series: Represent "New Generation" engines produced approximately from 2001 to 2014. These were standard production engines during that period.
• B Series: Modular engines engineered since 2013. They are part of the EfficientDynamics family, emphasizing a blend of power and fuel economy.
• S Series: High-performance engines developed by BMW's M division for their road cars. Examples include the S54B32 from the E46 M3 and the S58, a high-performance version of the B58 engine.
• P Series: Officially designated for motorsports racing engines.

Detailed response, but I think he was referring to the engine found in an M340.

 

[Tenac]

Detailed response, but I think he was referring to the engine found in an M340.

Might be but I read it said M motor, and with BMW's ranges kinda hard to follow I thought I would send some clarification.

 

[Ragman]

What I would be excited about at this point (although the new version with portal axles looks pretty damn nice) would be an extended cab (not 4 door) Quartermaster with a longer bed to accommodate a larger slide in or flat bed conversion. Oh, and a larger fuel tank!