Black rifle thread

[Zimm]

As a Brit, I find that really startling - outside of a military armoury, you just don't see that many firearms in one place. I think you would struggle to buy a gun safe big enough in the UK!

In Every Englishman's closet.

Keep in mind, You only wield one at a time, so just because you have 20 doesn't make you more threatening. Beware the man with one gun, as he likely know how to use it.

 

[Tenac]

I've actually started to grow a bit fond of the older rifles myself. Maybe its the process or simply how unique they are now... But what always gets me is when you pick up the M1 and then pick up say my SBR Vector and the weight difference lol.... Those men of the past hauled around a tree with them....

 

[Tenac]

I also thought this was about the new coffee places popping up black rifle coffee. LOL

 

[Zimm]

I've actually started to grow a bit fond of the older rifles myself. Maybe its the process or simply how unique they are now... But what always gets me is when you pick up the M1 and then pick up say my SBR Vector and the weight difference lol.... Those men of the past hauled around a tree with them....

I just trained my youngest daughter how to shoot the garand last year. She’s pretty much burned her way thru my store of ww2 ammo, and is eyeing the Korean. She loves that rifle.

 

[LC0013]

It depends on how old you are. That was cutting edge in it’s it’s day. To me, this one is old school.

Classic old school there. With original box and papers probably worth a good bit. Certainly highly desirable in my area.

 

[Zimm]

Classic old school there. With original box and papers probably worth a good bit. Certainly highly desirable in my area.

I built that out of parts. OE parts, mostly. The receiver is later 80’s LEO, but still colt. Ya don’t run into surplus like ya used to. Like fj60’s, I wish ida bought a slew when the supply was cheap and infinite.

 

[INEOS OG]

It depends on how old you are. That was cutting edge in it’s it’s day. To me, this one is old school.

That might be my age, It is hard to tell in the light whether those are early semi gloss handgaurds (1960-1967) or later matte handgaurds (1967-1984ish). Nice.

 

[Zimm]

That might be my age, It is hard to tell in the light whether those are early semi gloss handgaurds (1960-1967) or later matte handgaurds (1967-1984ish). Nice.

I like the early 60's glossy Bakelite.

 

[shiv.nandak]

Now imagine the oppressor having next generation stuff, and organized. It's over, johnny. Owning a rifle for revolution is moot.

Considering that no one has been able to conquer a bunch of goat farmers wearing sandals (Afganistan), I am inclined to believe anything is possible

 

[INEOS OG]

It depends on how old you are. That was cutting edge in it’s it’s day. To me, this one is old school.

My SP1 was one of the last ('83/'84) with round handgaurds. I was minding my own business hanging out with my favorite gun store owner when one walked in the door. My blue state had just restricted gun stores from buying and selling black rifles without an "assault weapons license" whatever that means so the store owner turned him away. A short walk around the corner and $600 later it went to a new home.

 

[Jeremy996]

I did British Army training back in the days of the SLR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle, became a member of a gun club and did a fair amount of shooting for the pot, (rabbits), and vermin control. I was never very good, so it did not become the passion some of my fellow Territorial Army soldiers developed, ( one competed in a Winter Olympic Biathlon, a bit of a surprise as he usually worked in a bank).

This is about as much exposure as anyone in the UK has to firearms and vastly more than most of the population, so pardon my surprise when someone casually displays an arsenal on his dining room floor.

 

[Zimm]

My SP1 was one of the last ('83/'84) with round handgaurds. I was minding my own business hanging out with my favorite gun store owner when one walked in the door. My blue state had just restricted gun stores from buying and selling black rifles without an "assault weapons license" whatever that means so the store owner turned him away. A short walk around the corner and $600 later it went to a new home.

Timing is everything.

 

[Zimm]

Considering that no one has been able to conquer a bunch of goat farmers wearing sandals (Afganistan), I am inclined to believe anything is possible

You conflate conquer with occupy.

 

[LC0013]

....so pardon my surprise when someone casually displays an arsenal on his dining room floor.

Not considered a surprise considering the history of sovereigns of the UK however, certainly not considered an arsenal in the USA. Well, certainly not in the south anyway.

 

[Jeremy996]

A farmer in the UK might have a few side by side shotguns, a small calibre rifle, a few higher powered air rifles and perhaps a captive bolt gun, but that is probably it. Not a miltary grade firearm or NATO ammunition to be seen.

 

[LC0013]

A farmer in the UK might have a few side by side shotguns, a small calibre rifle, a few higher powered air rifles and perhaps a captive bolt gun, but that is probably it. Not a miltary grade firearm or NATO ammunition to be seen.

That sounds rather sad.

 

[DaveB]

Not to worry, none of us have a desire to move to England. Not a bad feeling about Brits but, we have more freedom here I believe.

No sorry.
The fact you feel the need to have that many guns shows you have considerably less freedom than many of us enjoy.

If I lived in the US I would also have several guns probably not more than one AR, if even one.
2 or 3 handguns definitely.

I don't even lock my house here and often leave the vehicles unlocked as well.
Obviously there are places in the larger cities where you wouldn't do that, but nowhere that you should feel the need to own a gun.
Most people in Australia would never have seen a gun let alone own one.

 

[DaveB]

Well, maybe a generation ago it was. When you look at military tactics, (ALL rifles are now PDWs) and the prevalence of facial and motion recognition cameras (height weight and how you walk), combined with AI and all the personal profile data whats been collected and now in the hands of DOGE and PTG, the idea of a citizen revolt is really fucking quaint. Isolating trouble makers is as easy as facebook target marketing. I guarantee you with next gen drones, it is now an impossibility. You don't need to store a 14k drum of mk262, because you're not getting to the end of your first magazine after contact is made. What you're watching in Ukraine is a 3rd world country utilizing cobbled together commercial/retail technology to thwart a technologically stagnant regime crippled by corruption. Now imagine the oppressor having next generation stuff, and organized. It's over, johnny. Owning a rifle for revolution is moot.

That depressing fact aside, It's kinda part of who I am. While there's no chance I'd kill an unarmed man that intended to rob or mug me, as mere money is not the equivalent of a life no matter how misguided they may be, I still find firearms fun, and I intend on keeping them around.

When I see pictures like this from the US I always think "what a pack of wankers" they would last about 15 minutes in a real fight.
Less time if they had to run up stairs or past a McDonalds.

 

[DaveB]

I just trained my youngest daughter how to shoot the garand last year. She’s pretty much burned her way thru my store of ww2 ammo, and is eyeing the Korean. She loves that rifle.

Has she lost any skin off her thumb yet?

 

[Zimm]

Has she lost any skin off her thumb yet?

I dunnknow. She hasn’t told me if she has. She’s 30. I’m on a need to know basis. She’s got me blocked on FB