Another UK dealer gone.

[landmannnn]

I trying to book a service with one that is still open. A week and a half later, still haven't.
I guess they might be gone soon too.

 

[Motorvat]

Well, I guess I was waiting for this. Just tried Harwoods. Their reception didn't even know the service centre had gone! Then tried INEOS ( I got one of those notes from Lynn Calder saying she wants to share my thoughts - she's going to, could be a long call). They told me the nearest service centre for me (I'm near Andover) was in Barnstaple, North Devon. I think actually I need to be looking at Adventure Automotive in Northampton, about two and a bit hours away.

They need to get their act together re-servicing, and fast. I want to be able to take the car to my local garage so that they can fix it. But for that to happen they would need the software, parts and service info. Should all be doable. They never had a problem servicing my Porsche (that I gave up for the Grenadier [sigh!] )

I wish you luck with Northampton I have been waiting 11 days for help/ appointment for a diff warning light
I don’t believe it is a problem with the people they are simply short staffed and cover a big area

 

[CRH]

I trying to book a service with one that is still open. A week and a half later, still haven't.
I guess they might be gone soon too.

Which dealer, where are you based and how far are you prepared to travel?

 

[landmannnn]

Which dealer, where are you based and how far are you prepared to travel?

I live not far from Solihull, trying Uttoxeter now.

 

[Pistaah]

I live not far from Solihull, trying Uttoxeter now.

Without wishing to state the obvious - have you tried Grange?

 

[landmannnn]

Without wishing to state the obvious - have you tried Grange?

Yes, you did.

 

[Pistaah]

Yes, you did.

OK - only asked as I use them, hence being surprised that you had no luck - are they not taking bookings?

 

[drof14850]

Last week had my first service at compass automotive Bridgwater admittedly long haul for you guys, 4 hour round trip for me. but to give them credit service was great.

 

[DoubleDoom]

There is an article in "car" this month which quotes Lynn Calder in a number of areas. It mentions how US and China are asking about a V8 and that Ineos are switching to a 48V mild hybrid in a couple of years etc but one area of concern was....
"if we cannot get that clarity, then we've got other markets. I don't want that to the case. UK, Germany, France, Austria - these are our heartland countries...[snip].... how sad to be not brigning our car to those markets.... [snip]"...

So, whilst they don't want it to be the plan, it does appear that Ineos is prepared to walk away from Europe if they don't get some concessions on fossil fuel vehicles. So, if we think agent/dealer issues are bad now, we ain't seen nothing yet. If you were a prospective dealer, would you go into an arrangement that has less than 10 years life? Would you even buy a Grenadier now, knowing that Ineos could be walking away from Europe in under 10 years?

 

[Eric]

There is an article in "car" this month which quotes Lynn Calder in a number of areas. It mentions how US and China are asking about a V8 and that Ineos are switching to a 48V mild hybrid in a couple of years etc but one area of concern was....
"if we cannot get that clarity, then we've got other markets. I don't want that to the case. UK, Germany, France, Austria - these are our heartland countries...[snip].... how sad to be not brigning our car to those markets.... [snip]"...

So, whilst they don't want it to be the plan, it does appear that Ineos is prepared to walk away from Europe if they don't get some concessions on fossil fuel vehicles. So, if we think agent/dealer issues are bad now, we ain't seen nothing yet. If you were a prospective dealer, would you go into an arrangement that has less than 10 years life? Would you even buy a Grenadier now, knowing that Ineos could be walking away from Europe in under 10 years?

Well it is up to the UK voting public to kick Ed Miliband's rush to Net Zero into touch. When we've bankrupted the country, impoverished our citizens and gone back to living in the stone age; we will have reduced world emissions by 0.6%. I some how don't think, America, China, India, Russia Brazil et al will be quite in the same position as the UK

 

[ECrider]

Well it is up to the UK voting public to kick Ed Miliband's rush to Net Zero into touch. When we've bankrupted the country, impoverished our citizens and gone back to living in the stone age; we will have reduced world emissions by 0.6%. I some how don't think, America, China, India, Russia Brazil et al will be quite in the same position as the UK

I'm starting to feel like cutting back on my smokes is no longer effective to Ed's Net Zero plan.

 

[CRH]

There is an article in "car" this month which quotes Lynn Calder in a number of areas. It mentions how US and China are asking about a V8 and that Ineos are switching to a 48V mild hybrid in a couple of years etc but one area of concern was....
"if we cannot get that clarity, then we've got other markets. I don't want that to the case. UK, Germany, France, Austria - these are our heartland countries...[snip].... how sad to be not brigning our car to those markets.... [snip]"...

So, whilst they don't want it to be the plan, it does appear that Ineos is prepared to walk away from Europe if they don't get some concessions on fossil fuel vehicles. So, if we think agent/dealer issues are bad now, we ain't seen nothing yet. If you were a prospective dealer, would you go into an arrangement that has less than 10 years life? Would you even buy a Grenadier now, knowing that Ineos could be walking away from Europe in under 10 years?

When I bought mine the current UK government plan was a ban on any new vehicle with combustion engine by 2030, so I was never hopeful for the long term unless the hydrogen took off, which it hasn't. I always suspected it would change slightly and be pushed back but the we got Ed Miliband! The Fusilier was a glimmer of hope but we don't have any sensible people in charge throughout the EU, all of them care about is making a legacy for themselves rather than understanding the real world. Car companies need certainty to plan and invest, all.they get from government is uncertainty & taxes with no help against the might of the Chinese state. Ultimately it was always going to be a live in hope and that the American market took off and parts would still be produced plus the 'promise' of the DIY manuals.

This is too political, I think i need an afternoon nap

 

[Eric]

When I bought mine the current UK government plan was a ban on any new vehicle with combustion engine by 2030, so I was never hopeful for the long term unless the hydrogen took off, which it hasn't. I always suspected it would change slightly and be pushed back but the we got Ed Miliband! The Fusilier was a glimmer of hope but we don't have any sensible people in charge throughout the EU, all of them care about is making a legacy for themselves rather than understanding the real world. Car companies need certainty to plan and invest, all.they get from government is uncertainty & taxes with no help against the might of the Chinese state. Ultimately it was always going to be a live in hope and that the American market took off and parts would still be produced plus the 'promise' of the DIY manuals.

This is too political, I think i need an afternoon nap

There is a suggestion that afternoon naps will be taxed at 40%

 

[CRH]

There is a suggestion that afternoon naps will be taxed at 40%

Expelling too much carbon dioxide