Another Shock Vendor for the Grenadier - Radflow

[angstorms]

We have one more choose in high end shocks, Radflow rolled out there new 2.5 inch shocks and Steering stabilizer for the INEOS Grenadier, they have two types Single knob compression adj and high/low adjustable compression shock for fronts and rears.

1. $670 per shock with single compression adj
2. $960 per shock with Hi/lo
3. $400 for the Stabilizer

Link to shocks and stabler

So we now starting to have good choices for Premium shocks

• Kings 2.5" with Reservoir and stabilizer
• Eibach is working on bring over Pro-Truck Reservoirs shocks announced by Bodhi
• Agile said in Video they worked with Fox to bring there Performance and Performance Elite
• Radflow 2.5 inch Reservoirs shocks
• Metalcloak now confirmed they are working on bring over there Rocksport Black 2.5 inch shock with reservoirs

I guess Bilstein is now the current hold out, they could do something like B8 8100's

Also it be interesting to see what Metalcloak does in this space since they also have there own shock line. Control Rods though is good start to help with Caster adjustments.

OEM shocks by Sachs

 

[TelRidan]

Two French companies are also making oleo-pneumatic shocks for the Grenadier. @Dok has the ones by Fournales Suspension, while I have the ones by Nimbus Suspension. Nimbus has a review on Expedition Portal by Graeme Bell: https://expeditionportal.com/nimbus...eview-get-ready-for-the-flying-carpet-effect/

 

[angstorms]

Yes there is also

• Reiger which Adrenaline sells with springs $7,699.00 for a set with springs
• Koni has the Raid shocks model numbers 90-5492, 90-5493

 

[Dok]

I can only recommend that you try oleo-pneumatic shocks before considering any other upgrade...
https://www.fournales.fr/

I couldn't go back

 

[owl (Owl Outdoor)]

Yes there is also Reiger which Adrenaline sells with springs $7,699.00 for a set with springs
Koni has the Raid shocks model numbers 90-5492, 90-5493

I have The KW/Reiger on my Grenadier
John form Owl has the King/Eibach combo
The third (newest one) Owl Grenadier has Eibach and a different shock manufacturer that we are testing some different configurations on.
We are trying to get some company three way comparison testing done in Moab prior to the Grenadier event there

 

[angstorms]

Looking forward to seeing the bake off turns out, I am heading back up to Durango this weekend, but will not be making out for the event in Moab.

 

[MTNDOG]

Yes there is also Reiger which Adrenaline sells with springs $7,699.00 for a set with springs
Koni has the Raid shocks model numbers 90-5492, 90-5493

Anyone have any experience with the Koni Raids?

 

[Brandtnm]

Yes there is also Reiger which Adrenaline sells with springs $7,699.00 for a set with springs
Koni has the Raid shocks model numbers 90-5492, 90-5493

I have the Koni’s, highly recommend. They’re super at damping the extra weight of a full buildout. Drives like unladen again.

 

[parb]

I have The KW/Reiger on my Grenadier
John form Owl has the King/Eibach combo
The third (newest one) Owl Grenadier has Eibach and a different shock manufacturer that we are testing some different configurations on.
We are trying to get some company three way comparison testing done in Moab prior to the Grenadier event there

Would you mind giving a review @owl (Owl Outdoor) of the three combos?
I am very interested in your three way comparison as I'm trying to decide what I want to do with my truck.

I especially care for the review of on highway as well as off-road behavior. Many just focus on the off-road but I think highway manners matter greatly too.

 

[AWo]

We drive customized radflos for many, many, many years in our 110. And we love them. Technically they belong to the ones which offer the most different and granular setups due to the way the piston is designed and the amount of shims available.

They also proofed to cope with heavy bumpy washboard tracks, temperature not getting higher as 70 degrees C (with reservoir) at speeds of 70 up to 90 km/h. We saw Konis fail there.

I only can recommend radflo.

I actually want to replace my even older customized Fox shocks in my 90ty with radflos, but unfortunately my suspension Guru just quit, so I'm a little bit lost in that perspective.

AWo

 

[drof14850]

I contacted Fournales after reading Dok's posts was very keen to do something,

Thank you for your interest in our products.

For 45 years our company has been developing and offering a wide range of combined suspension-shock absorbers oleopneumatic (motorcycle, car, light aviation, industry etc.).

Our "suspension-shock absorber" handsets are mounted in place of the original shock absorbers. Their operation is oleopneumatic, that is to say that to the damping function is added an additional pneumatic spring function which can be modulated at will by the user.

By adjusting the pressure you can change the attitude (attitude: height of the vehicle resting on its wheels).

The original springs are preserved; however, the elevation provided by the pneumatic spring provides comfort, stability, motive power and, in principle, the impossibility of following in compression.

This year we developed the combined suspension-shock absorbers for "Grenadier Ineos.". We have not developed the steering damper.

For the moment we have equipped a single Grenadier in France whose mission is to validate the performance and characteristics of the product.

So if a Grenadier is equipped in the USA with a product that looks like ours, it is not of our Fournalés Suspension brand.

This is not the first time that people without experience or authentic know-how have tried to copy our products.

To attract customers they implement a noisy communication that can convince an uninformed clientele.

The Fournalés Suspension product that will be marketed in 2025 will be identical to the one that currently performs an endurance and performance test under real conditions.


For me 2025?? could be January or December, may have to take a look for the Next Grenadier, as Im looking for now have ordered a full set of kings inc steering stabiliser only time will tell if I made the right decision!

 

[angstorms]

Since I wrote this up we now have early link to Fox Shocks and Metalcloak has stated they will be bringing over their Rocksport Black 2.5 inch reservoir shocks.
we have lot choice now for aftermarket shocks.

So you get more info on Metallcloak shock while we wait for official launch https://metalcloak.com/rocksport-black-reservoir-shocks

Agile Offroad link for the the Fox Performance Elite 2.5 inch body shock with reservoirs https://agileoffroad.com/product/fo...-shocks-for-ineos-grenadier-by-agile-offroad/

 

[TCMColorado]

It is commonly thought that Bilstein is the supplier of the OEM shocks. They are actually made by Sachs which is a division of ZF which supplies the transmission. Bilstein does supply the steering damper.

 

[angstorms]

It is commonly thought that Bilstein is the supplier of the OEM shocks. They are actually made by Sachs which is a division of ZF which supplies the transmission. Bilstein does supply the steering damper.

Thanks fixed

 

[PDX_Keith]

I saw on the socials that @Metalcloak was running their shocks in Moab. Anyone catch a peak or speak to them?

Was @owl (Owl Outdoor) running anything new that we haven't seen?

 

[ADVAW8S]

I have been extremely happy with Radflo. Out of the box they have provided smooth ride, no body roll and no diving when breaking hard. Planning on getting into the woods at end of month.

 

[angstorms]

I saw on the socials that @Metalcloak was running their shocks in Moab. Anyone catch a peak or speak to them?

Was @owl (Owl Outdoor) running anything new that we haven't seen?

Owl had their new shock at the Grenadier Gathering in Moab, designed for 2.5 inch lift, they currently the longest stroke at 10" they still in testing. Also Metalcloak was at the event with there Grenadier, loaded with there new shocks which are still in testing. they had nice break down video on YouTube

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0petxpfNpc

 

[PDX_Keith]

@angstorms Who made the Owl shock? From what I have read by Agile and others, extending the shock length is not ideal. Thoughts?

 

[TCMColorado]

@angstorms Who made the Owl shock? From what I have read by Agile and others, extending the shock length is not ideal. Thoughts?

Given the known issues with the front drive shaft increasing the shock length will only make that problem worse. Shock length is typically increased to achieve additional suspension travel. The easy way to do this with the Grenadier is to use sway bar disconnects. They are currently available from Metalcloak and soon to be available from Agile. Disconnects allow for maximum movement of the front axle but within the confines of the OEM design and thus will not put additional stress on the drive shaft. The total amount of travel will not change but disconnecting the sway bar allows one side of the axle to be fully compressed while the other is fully extended. The sway bar prevents this if it is connected.

 

[angstorms]

@PDX_Keith Yes I quizzed Owl on this the fact they longer then OEM, ( Note Fox 2.5" body are shorter then OEM,, I had talked to John at Agile about shock length on Grenadier, yes he is OEM length or shorter), Owl said they were trying optimize down travel. He did say they had not had CV damage yet, biggest issue they found is when you put the new shocks and spring, you have support the pumpkin so it does not overly drop. But the jury is still out since they currently doing testing.

I have the Rear Lynx sway bar disconnects ( really small air shock so you can set variable stiffness ) from Agile, and Metalcloak front full disconnect sitting in the garage when I I get chance to install them. Note when John at Agile was with Brad from TrailsRecon and ran up ramp he did not air down the lynx down sway bar disconnect, he was still at 300 PSI. One more thing Brad's Land Cruiser was far from stock, after market control arms, king shocks, king swaybar extender on rear.