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Agile Offroad Heavy Duty Universal Scissor Jack or Mojab Hydraulic Jack?

grnamin

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Which jack would you prefer for on and offroad use and why. Many thanks in advance.


 
Which jack would you prefer for on and offroad use and why. Many thanks in advance.


HiLift and a really good bottle jack. So neither of your options I guess. HiLift is a Swiss Army knife. And honestly the same can kinda be said about a good bottle jack even though it kinda only has one trick. You just need to be creative.
 
For offroad the hydraulic jack paired with a Jack Mate and a base plate would be my vote, particularly if you’re going remote.

  • Safest jacking option. Facial injury in the middle of nowhere? Yeah nah
  • Easy to operate meaning a less experienced assistant can manage the jack while you do other stuff
  • Can lift without getting beneath the vehicle
  • Easiest method to solve a grounded vehicle (with jack mate)
  • No threads to jam with muck or grit

Only downside is cost and complexity versus a farm/hi-lift jack.
Noting you have a winch fitted so the other farm jack benefit (can double as a winch) is moot.

Are your side steps rated for jacking? That might be a factor.
Please note that careful use might be required to protect door skins.

For onroad (eg just changing tyres) only a floor jack is faster than scissor jack + electric drill.
With our rigid axles the hydraulic/bottle jack provided is just as easy though.

We run a ARB hydraulic jack for recoveries but use the bottle jack for wheel changes.

Interested to see the voting…
 
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For offroad the hydraulic jack paired with a Jack Mate and a base plate would be my vote, particularly if you’re going remote.

  • Safest jacking option. Facial injury in the middle of nowhere? Yeah nah
  • Easy to operate meaning a less experienced assistant can manage the jack while you do other stuff
  • Can lift without getting beneath the vehicle
  • Easiest method to solve a grounded vehicle (with jack mate)
  • No threads to jam with muck or grit

Only downside is cost and complexity versus a farm/hi-lift jack.
Noting you have a winch fitted so the other farm jack benefit (can double as a winch) is moot.

Are your side steps rated for jacking? That might be a factor.
Please note that careful use might be required to protect door skins.

For onroad (eg just changing tyres) only a floor jack is faster than scissor jack + electric drill.
With our rigid axles the hydraulic/bottle jack provided is just as easy though.

We run a ARB hydraulic jack for recoveries but use the bottle jack for wheel changes.

Interested to see the voting…
HiLift can also be used as a clamp, spreader, bender etc. plus the I beam portion can be hose clamped to a damaged tie rod or the like in an emergency. The handle can be used as a breaker bar or used to brace something as well. The limits of a HiLift are really limited to your imagination.

Are they dangerous, yeah if used improperly or not serviced. But many of the dangers of the HiLift are the same for the hydraulic replacements. In fact a buddy who will remain nameless just experienced this with a Mojab. Luckily his truck was only just off the ground but the jack slipped and the truck dropped.

The deadly handle issue is easily managed by understanding how the HiLift works.
 
HiLift can also be used as a clamp, spreader, bender etc. plus the I beam portion can be hose clamped to a damaged tie rod or the like in an emergency. The handle can be used as a breaker bar or used to brace something as well. The limits of a HiLift are really limited to your imagination.

Are they dangerous, yeah if used improperly or not serviced. But many of the dangers of the HiLift are the same for the hydraulic replacements. In fact a buddy who will remain nameless just experienced this with a Mojab. Luckily his truck was only just off the ground but the jack slipped and the truck dropped.

The deadly handle issue is easily managed by understanding how the HiLift works.
Yeah, I grew up with farm jacks and they are undoubtedly a useful device. But if I’m properly remote, and I’m doing a recovery with folks that speak a different language, that understanding is likely limited to me and instructions are difficult to issue fast. This intensifies all the other risks because I now need to be concentrating on crowd control AND the jack itself. This basic situation can easily also play out on a weekend expedition with mates, or a back country camping trip with her indoors.

Just clarifying the reasoning, for most users the hi-lift would be the go if only for cost reasons given how rarely it’s used.
 
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I’ve got a hilift and the Ineos bottle jack. My wife couldn’t use the hilift if she had to. It takes a lot of effort to raise one side of the back end of a fully loaded Grenadier. At the moment I’m still battling with the cost of the ARB hydraulic high lift jack though. I may relent and buy one at some point. My OEM side steps are more than strong enough to use as a jacking point if the jack is placed at either end of the steps.
 
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