2026 has worser ADAS intrusion ?

[HereinDaRockies]

These guys test drove 26 Grenadier and did not like the ADAS

View: https://youtu.be/FHY4y_iG_sY?si=0bmw9zASmZq372GI

 

[Roadking01]

Why even put that on a vehicle for the USA ?

 

[Tazzieman]

Why even put that on a vehicle for the USA ?

Because government says you cannot have the old days these days.

LANDMARK ADAS BILL INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS, FIRST MAJOR STEP TO PROTECT THE RIGHT TO MODIFY

LANDMARK ADAS BILL INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS, FIRST MAJOR STEP TO PROTECT THE RIGHT TO MODIFY -- SEMA-led, bipartisan ADAS Functionality & Integrity Act provides pathway to ensure proper calibration of ADAS when vehicles are legally modified --

www.sema.org

 

[Commodore]

This guy is an idiot. He doesn’t know crap about recirculating ball versus rack and pinion. He is raving about the rack and pinion in the bronco and saying that proves there is no good reason for recirculating ball. Perhaps he should research how the bronco rack literally explodes off road. The only solution is a $5,000 74Weld rack. It is one of the major reasons I sold my Bronco.

They think Rowler Flats is off road. It’s a fire road north of LA. He thinks 4 motor EVs are where it’s at off road.

And best of all he can’t figure out how to get the Grenadier into various “off road modes”. These are the sheeple who think that off road situations need some electronic mode you dial in on the screen.

God I hope I bump into him in LA sometime. What a jackass.

 

[Roadking01]

If you purchase a 2026 with the new ADAS system, how does that affect any modifications like a lift and larger tires?

 

[Skydance]

If you purchase a 2026 with the new ADAS system, how does that affect any modifications like a lift and larger tires?

Like with any other car manufacturer or big lift/tyres tyres. The camera on windscreen for ADAS should ideally be recalibrated otherwise you may get inaccurate readings.

 

[CRH]

Like with any other car manufacturer or big lift/tyres tyres. The camera on windscreen for ADAS should ideally be recalibrated otherwise you may get inaccurate readings.

What a complete pain in the @rse.
2023 models rule, so we have cr@p heating, at least we don't have the nanny systems. Heating can be fixed, eventually

 

[Skydance]

What a complete pain in the @rse.
2023 models rule, so we have cr@p heating, at least we don't have the nanny systems. Heating can be fixed, eventually

Also our windscreens are a lot cheaper and easier to fix than non adas. I have a modern Audi with the ADAS and I actually think it’s dangerous when it drags your steering wheel when you change lanes before indicating.

 

[Happyoldgit]

The ADAS strong steering and braking input in my 2021 Isuzu D Max V Cross was positively dangerous and I was glad when a software upgrade enabled it to be turned off via a pre existing switch on the steering wheel.

 

[CRH]

Also our windscreens are a lot cheaper and easier to fix than non adas. I have a modern Audi with the ADAS and I actually think it’s dangerous when it drags your steering wheel when you change lanes before indicating.

Scared the life out of me on a courtesy vehicle, I was about to turn round and take it back saying there was a problem with it until I realised what it was. Absolutely stupid on UK A roads. Read the IAM manual and it recommends crossing the centre lines as a point of safer driving at relevant situations, you wouldn't be indicating to do so and would therefore be dragged back

Nothing like some health and safety person sitting down an writing rules without being able to, or bothering to drive properly in all situations

 

[Roadking01]

If a person needs these kind of systems to drive, then they shouldn’t be on the road.

 

[CRH]

If a person needs these kind of systems to drive, then they shouldn’t be on the road.

Sadly the kids of today think the vehicle interior is for entertainment rather than paying attention to their driving.

 

[Roadking01]

Possibly true. However, I thought the whole point with Ineos was to build a car that was purposeful, able to modify, off-road capable, hose it out, and with less intrusions. Seems like they are going backwards.

 

[CRH]

Possibly true. However, I thought the whole point with Ineos was to build a car that was purposeful, able to modify, off-road capable, hose it out, and with less intrusions. Seems like they are going backwards.

But they have no choice, if you don't apply the mandatory electronics then you can't sell them, it would be like deciding to do away with the indicators and using hand signals to save on the chance of a bulb going, they aren't allowed to do it. It's very sad, and not what lots of us wanted but the reality is you cannot sell a vehicle for the road if it does not comply with regulations

 

[Skydance]

Possibly true. However, I thought the whole point with Ineos was to build a car that was purposeful, able to modify, off-road capable, hose it out, and with less intrusions. Seems like they are going backwards.

It’s regulations, not Ineos.

 

[Mohs 9]

Few days ago a crash occured in Romania, 7 death. Survivor blames the lane assist system.
Video from the crash is here: https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/video...Lkw-Lenkassistenz-im-Verdacht-id30297598.html
I am happy that my 2023 Grenny has no ADAS.

 

[Roadking01]

I get it, but not mandated in the USA until 2029. The U.S. House of Representatives has introduced the ADAS Functionality & Integrity Act (HB 6688), a bill that would provide aftermarket businesses information needed to properly calibrate advanced driver assistance systems after vehicles are modified. I dont know if you modify a vehicle with ADAS that you can calibrate the ADAS system.

 

[Krabby]

So the 2026 will steer itself (to prevent a perceived accident)? If so, is it defeatable?

 

[Mohs 9]

To clarify my post #16 above: This crash was not with an Ineos.

 

[Tenac]

I'm waiting to see if you can even fit a wolfbox to a 2026 without freaking the car out and throwing codes all day.