Americas Why all the fuss about fuel economy?

[[ Adam ]]

It looks like I was getting the current bill (REPAIR Act) that is going through Congress intermixed with the Magnuson act (which is law, not just a bill).

Thanks ChatGPT

TL;DR: There is no such law.

 

[LeeroyJ]

Thanks ChatGPT

TL;DR: There is no such law.

Its a current bill, so yes not law. It apparently has bipartisan support, so fingers crossed.

In the House: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1566
Current Status:

02/25/2025	Referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. Action By: House of Representatives
02/25/2025	Introduced in House Action By: House of Representatives

In the Senate: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th...=Text - S.,Congress.gov | Library of Congress
Current Status:

04/09/2025

Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. Action By: Senate

 

[Schneeman]

You all raise good points. I offroad pretty close to where I live in SW Washington, so range has not come into the picture yet. You can bet if I go on a longer trip to a place like SE Oregon out on the Owahee or Alvord, I'll be carrying at least two 5ga/20l Jerry cans. Have any of you considered the range extender tank? I have seen one from Long Range America and another from Brown Davis (AUS). Seems like these double the fuel capacity nicely without affecting ground clearance. I have not yet, but may at some point. A 500-600 mile range sounds great, TBH. I have to say that I like the Brown Davis one better as it's black and more inconspicuous.

 

[Schneeman]

Yes see below -- highway robbery here by the dealers in the US. If I could reset the service reminder, I would do this myself:View attachment 7905249

Hey Leeroy. Funny, I'm getting bent by Ron Tonkin as we speak, LOL! I brought Nigellus (Nigel) in this very morning to have the software update and address some small issues and decided to get an oil change since it is inconvenient at best to take it there for service. I have a shop that I used for years closer to me for oil changes and they specialize in BMW, so I'm pretty sure they have serviced thousands of these engines. For anything unrelated to Warranty, I'll be going there instead.

 

[LeeroyJ]

Hey Leeroy. Funny, I'm getting bent by Ron Tonkin as we speak, LOL! I brought Nigellus (Nigel) in this very morning to have the software update and address some small issues and decided to get an oil change since it is inconvenient at best to take it there for service. I have a shop that I used for years closer to me for oil changes and they specialize in BMW, so I'm pretty sure they have serviced thousands of these engines. For anything unrelated to Warranty, I'll be going there instead.

Good luck, will be interesting to see what they charge you.

 

[LeeroyJ]

You all raise good points. I offroad pretty close to where I live in SW Washington, so range has not come into the picture yet. You can bet if I go on a longer trip to a place like SE Oregon out on the Owahee or Alvord, I'll be carrying at least two 5ga/20l Jerry cans. Have any of you considered the range extender tank? I have seen one from Long Range America and another from Brown Davis (AUS). Seems like these double the fuel capacity nicely without affecting ground clearance. I have not yet, but may at some point. A 500-600 mile range sounds great, TBH. I have to say that I like the Brown Davis one better as it's black and more inconspicuous.

I think Brown Davis only makes one for Diesel (at least the last time I looked that's what I remember). So I'm not sure there are any of those in the US.

I've had the long-ranger tank now for ~8,000 miles, its absolutely a game changer and I highly recommend it. 430 miles is the furthest I've gone between fill-ups with it, I could probably go more if needed and if offroad. Ironically my worst mileage is towing at highway speeds. Low-speed offroad isn't bad. I also had the long ranger on my 200 series Landcruiser diesel and I could get 1500 kms (932mi) between fill-ups with that, it was great for the desert trips I used to do. That engine was much less thirsty than the B58 though.

I was on a week long trip in May and it was secretly satisfying to be sitting in my camp chair enjoying a beer at the end of the day while I watched other Grenadier owners dealing with jerry cans

 

[pmatusov]

You all raise good points. I offroad pretty close to where I live in SW Washington, so range has not come into the picture yet. You can bet if I go on a longer trip to a place like SE Oregon out on the Owahee or Alvord, I'll be carrying at least two 5ga/20l Jerry cans. Have any of you considered the range extender tank? I have seen one from Long Range America and another from Brown Davis (AUS). Seems like these double the fuel capacity nicely without affecting ground clearance. I have not yet, but may at some point. A 500-600 mile range sounds great, TBH. I have to say that I like the Brown Davis one better as it's black and more inconspicuous.

An Owyhee/Alvord trip, however crazy remote, won't require you to have more than one spare jerry can. I drove a D1 (which had the same exact gas mileage as the Grenadier) from a gas station on 95 in Paradise valley on dirt to Jarbidge, and only used 16 gallons. The slow off-pavement trips are comparable in fuel economy to fast highway - so you can count on 300 miles or so.

 

[Schneeman]

An Owyhee/Alvord trip, however crazy remote, won't require you to have more than one spare jerry can. I drove a D1 (which had the same exact gas mileage as the Grenadier) from a gas station on 95 in Paradise valley on dirt to Jarbidge, and only used 16 gallons. The slow off-pavement trips are comparable in fuel economy to fast highway - so you can count on 300 miles or so.

Honestly, not sure I'll ever get there in my Grenadier. I like taking my Super Duty with the popup camper on it. I'm kind of a puss these days when it comes to sleeping on the ground if I don't have to. I say, as I'm about to embark on a 7-day backpack trip in Idaho I have fueled up in Fields before and also down in Denio Junction. Expensive, but nearly as bad as I expected.

 

[pmatusov]

Honestly, not sure I'll ever get there in my Grenadier. I like taking my Super Duty with the popup camper on it. I'm kind of a puss these days when it comes to sleeping on the ground if I don't have to. I say, as I'm about to embark on a 7-day backpack trip in Idaho I have fueled up in Fields before and also down in Denio Junction. Expensive, but nearly as bad as I expected.

I sleep happily inside the Grenadier.

 

[Schneeman]

I sleep happily inside the Grenadier.

Me, the Mrs and a 65 lb dog. That would certainly be something. I used to do it all the time when I was solo but that might just send me over the edge.

But, speaking of that, how do you have yours set up for sleeping? Did you do the rear seat delete, or go for the slide out storage to make a good platform? Something else?. I've been eyeing the slide out drawers from a few suppliers but haven't made a decision yet.