Ranger Super Duty

[Zimm]

How prevalent is the crank issue on existing Rangers (assuming 3L engine)?

In the video they talk about how the engine has been redesigned: cooling, better low end (which seems to me that would be a new crank design), more HP, and also added a new xfer case, 8 bolt wheels, front/rear locking differential, etc.

I found it interesting that they had a different approach to "purpose built"....turn-key vs aftermarket (referring to commercial use). I think IG owners like aftermarket.

I Ford sees its way to bring this to the US. IMO people in the US buy fullsize because there is nothing on the mid-range until now. I'll bet the economy (TCO)of the Ranger is better than the F150.

I think we buy big trucks. The commercial market for this here is zero point zero, and the rec market for little campers I don’t think is too deep. It’ll take a fuel spike, when people think “small”.

 

[Roach]

I think we buy big trucks. The commercial market for this here is zero point zero, and the rec market for little campers I don’t think is too deep. It’ll take a fuel spike, when

Hmmm, I think the ranger is longer than the quartermaster. Does that mean the Quartermaster in the US is doomed? I suppose people looking for “a look” will gravitate to IG but if your point “we buy big” is true the the quartermaster will be a hard sell. Buying “big” might also be generational, family farms are in transition and are hyper focused in efficiency. Most of my use cases really don’t need full size but point is lost as they aren’t scheduled for US consumption.

 

[Zimm]

Hmmm, I think the ranger is longer than the quartermaster. Does that mean the Quartermaster in the US is doomed? I suppose people looking for “a look” will gravitate to IG but if your point “we buy big” is true the the quartermaster will be a hard sell. Buying “big” might also be generational, family farms are in transition and are hyper focused in efficiency. Most of my use cases really don’t need full size but point is lost as they aren’t scheduled for US consumption.

Yea, I kinda do. Considering what you can get in a full size pickup in the us, The quartermaster doesn't have a huge market, and its definitely not a 1 ton. It's been 50 years since I was a kid on a family farm, but, as far as efficiency goes, fuel consumption really isn't even a consideration until every other box is checked. Can the truck do everything you need to produce a profit? The classic farm truck when I was a kid was a 69 f250 4x4 (if you had the money for 4x4) stripped beater with a 390fe. 8'bed. That truck new in today's dollars???? $23,400-30,000!!! Considering that farm trucks don't need inspected if they stay withing 10 miles of the farm, you buy a beater and kill it. Lather, rinse, repeat. That's farm life efficiency.

 

[Roach]

Yea, I kinda do. Considering what you can get in a full size pickup in the us, The quartermaster doesn't have a huge market, and its definitely not a 1 ton. It's been 50 years since I was a kid on a family farm, but, as far as efficiency goes, fuel consumption really isn't even a consideration until every other box is checked. Can the truck do everything you need to produce a profit? The classic farm truck when I was a kid was a 69 f250 4x4 (if you had the money for 4x4) stripped beater with a 390fe. 8'bed. That truck new in today's dollars???? $23,400-30,000!!! Considering that farm trucks don't need inspected if they stay withing 10 miles of the farm, you buy a beater and kill it. Lather, rinse, repeat. That's farm life efficiency.

I wasn’t even thinking of fuel when it came to efficiency but it might be a bit better than a 1500 or 150.

 

[Roach]

I've watched a couple videos and really bummed this doesn't have a target date for the US (yet). 34gal tank, almost 10k lbs towing, decent torque at 442lbs (HP is a bit low but ok for my needs

 

[Krabby]

I doubt there will be an American version of this because it would eat into F150 sales.

 

[Zimm]

I doubt there will be an American version of this because it would eat into F150 sales.

On the other hand, IF chevy does it.... It's tough for them to leave a category uncontested, especially if it's already on the shelf.

I'm not sure it would eat any f150 though. It has great payload, but the bed is tiny, the ride will suck, and it won't be cheap. That's not a recipe for commercial or passenger. Nor will be as competent offroad as a raptor version. There's a reason Toyota never looked at sending the 79, and continued to develop truck after truck after truck to get the US market right.