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[anonymos]

As I'm living in 2 countries I placed 2 orders. Cancelled 1 in the meantime. Will leave the 2d one open just to see how this goes on. Not really interested in buying the car anymore. The reviews are very good. But the company is not reliable. Means I have no trust in the car in the long run and their after-sales-service. If they continue to operate the way they did they will be out of business in a couple of years. It seems they have no idea whatsoever they are competing with Toyota, Land Rover (yes), Mercedes, Subaru, Suzuki, Ford, Jeep, etc. All of them are well established companies with sophisticated services. Ineos is a newbee and already not performing well. You only get one chance to make a good first impression, is what they say.

 

[DCPU]

Are you Mark Tennant?

If so can I claim £5?

 

[Krabby]

As I'm living in 2 countries I placed 2 orders. Cancelled 1 in the meantime. Will leave the 2d one open just to see how this goes on. Not really interested in buying the car anymore. The reviews are very good. But the company is not reliable. Means I have no trust in the car in the long run and their after-sales-service. If they continue to operate the way they did they will be out of business in a couple of years. It seems they have no idea whatsoever they are competing with Toyota, Land Rover (yes), Mercedes, Subaru, Suzuki, Ford, Jeep, etc. All of them are well established companies with sophisticated services. Ineos is a newbee and already not performing well. You only get one chance to make a good first impression, is what they say.

Given your screen name it’s not surprising that you are not sharing any specifics, but would both countries have the same spec? That is, 2 EU nations, 1 UK-1 EU, etc? Does that impact your decision?

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Welcome to the forum @anonymos we hope you enjoy your time here. Please make sure you read the forum guidelines, it helps down the line believe me.

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[Cheshire cat]

As I'm living in 2 countries I placed 2 orders. Cancelled 1 in the meantime. Will leave the 2d one open just to see how this goes on. Not really interested in buying the car anymore. The reviews are very good. But the company is not reliable. Means I have no trust in the car in the long run and their after-sales-service. If they continue to operate the way they did they will be out of business in a couple of years. It seems they have no idea whatsoever they are competing with Toyota, Land Rover (yes), Mercedes, Subaru, Suzuki, Ford, Jeep, etc. All of them are well established companies with sophisticated services. Ineos is a newbee and already not performing well. You only get one chance to make a good first impression, is what they say.

Hi anonymous
Straight off the line I would think you should consider JLR. A reputation second to none with 95% reliability and available at a time to suit you. They have been in the game a very long time so no wonder you won’t see any complaints as to their customer service.

 

[bigleonski]

As I'm living in 2 countries I placed 2 orders. Cancelled 1 in the meantime. Will leave the 2d one open just to see how this goes on. Not really interested in buying the car anymore. The reviews are very good. But the company is not reliable. Means I have no trust in the car in the long run and their after-sales-service. If they continue to operate the way they did they will be out of business in a couple of years. It seems they have no idea whatsoever they are competing with Toyota, Land Rover (yes), Mercedes, Subaru, Suzuki, Ford, Jeep, etc. All of them are well established companies with sophisticated services. Ineos is a newbee and already not performing well. You only get one chance to make a good first impression, is what they say.

Oh look, a ChatGPT AI bot has come to play.

 

[Michael H.]

Oh look, a ChatGPT AI bot has come to play.

ChatGTP writes it better than he does. The prompt I used was “Write the first post for a new member joining the Ineos Grenadier forum, expressing reservations on purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer.” …

“ Hello, fellow Grenadier enthusiasts!

I'm excited to be a part of this community as a new member, and I can't wait to dive into discussions about the incredible Ineos Grenadier. However, I must admit that I have some reservations about purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer, and I'd love to hear your insights on this matter.

While the Ineos Grenadier has captured our attention with its rugged charm and promising capabilities, it's crucial to acknowledge that Ineos Automotive is a relatively new player in the automotive industry. As someone considering investing in a vehicle, I naturally have concerns about the reliability, long-term performance, and support that come with choosing a manufacturer without an established track record.

We all value a manufacturer's reputation for producing reliable and durable vehicles, and it's only natural to wonder if Ineos Automotive can live up to those standards. On the other hand, this fresh perspective and innovative approach could bring new and exciting features to the table.

As a new member, I'm eager to tap into the collective knowledge and experiences of this community. Have any of you been early adopters of the Ineos Grenadier? I would greatly appreciate hearing your firsthand experiences, insights, and any concerns you may have encountered along the way. Your input will undoubtedly help me make a more informed decision about whether the Ineos Grenadier is the right vehicle for me.

Let's foster a supportive and informative environment where we can openly discuss our reservations, share valuable information, and engage in thoughtful dialogue. Together, we can navigate the uncertainties of purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer and help each other make well-informed decisions.

Thank you all for welcoming me to this forum, and I'm excited to embark on this journey with all of you!

Best regards,
[Your Username]”

 

[bigleonski]

ChatGTP writes better than he does …

“ Hello, fellow Grenadier enthusiasts!

I'm excited to be a part of this community as a new member, and I can't wait to dive into discussions about the incredible Ineos Grenadier. However, I must admit that I have some reservations about purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer, and I'd love to hear your insights on this matter.

While the Ineos Grenadier has captured our attention with its rugged charm and promising capabilities, it's crucial to acknowledge that Ineos Automotive is a relatively new player in the automotive industry. As someone considering investing in a vehicle, I naturally have concerns about the reliability, long-term performance, and support that come with choosing a manufacturer without an established track record.

We all value a manufacturer's reputation for producing reliable and durable vehicles, and it's only natural to wonder if Ineos Automotive can live up to those standards. On the other hand, this fresh perspective and innovative approach could bring new and exciting features to the table.

As a new member, I'm eager to tap into the collective knowledge and experiences of this community. Have any of you been early adopters of the Ineos Grenadier? I would greatly appreciate hearing your firsthand experiences, insights, and any concerns you may have encountered along the way. Your input will undoubtedly help me make a more informed decision about whether the Ineos Grenadier is the right vehicle for me.

Let's foster a supportive and informative environment where we can openly discuss our reservations, share valuable information, and engage in thoughtful dialogue. Together, we can navigate the uncertainties of purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer and help each other make well-informed decisions.

Thank you all for welcoming me to this forum, and I'm excited to embark on this journey with all of you!

Best regards,
[Your Username]”

Incredible.

 

[James]

As I'm living in 2 countries I placed 2 orders. Cancelled 1 in the meantime. Will leave the 2d one open just to see how this goes on. Not really interested in buying the car anymore. The reviews are very good. But the company is not reliable. Means I have no trust in the car in the long run and their after-sales-service. If they continue to operate the way they did they will be out of business in a couple of years. It seems they have no idea whatsoever they are competing with Toyota, Land Rover (yes), Mercedes, Subaru, Suzuki, Ford, Jeep, etc. All of them are well established companies with sophisticated services. Ineos is a newbee and already not performing well. You only get one chance to make a good first impression, is what they say.

Im more than aware of the issues.
BUT
if you look at the delays and faults of the only 2 other new manufacturers I can think of, Tesla and Rivian, then Ineos have already done way better tha either of them on degree of delay, and probably on initial quality too. Even comms, although the balance between smoothness of excuse, and inaccuracy is definitely different (ineos not polished, the others polish a turd quite well).
AND
Ineos has done this with a pandemic, supply chain crisis unprecedented in global trade, and a war and energy crisis. It is nothing short of remarkable.
Im not suggesting all their faults are forgivable, but their achievements are phenomenal.

to arrive in the forum at this point and throw shade like you have is, well, peculiar at the least.

Sounds like you should drop the second order too, and just move on to something that meets your requirements. Best of luck with that.

 

[MarkH]

But the company is not reliable. Means I have no trust in the car in the long run and their after-sales-service.

You could be talking about ANY vehicle manufacturer.

If they continue to operate the way they did they will be out of business in a couple of years.

Toyota, Land Rover, Mercedes, Subaru, Suzuki, Ford, Jeep, etc all seem to be still around yet can treat their customers with utter contempt.

 

[Cheshire cat]

ChatGTP writes it better than he does. The prompt I used was “Write the first post for a new member joining the Ineos Grenadier forum, expressing reservations on purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer.” …

“ Hello, fellow Grenadier enthusiasts!

I'm excited to be a part of this community as a new member, and I can't wait to dive into discussions about the incredible Ineos Grenadier. However, I must admit that I have some reservations about purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer, and I'd love to hear your insights on this matter.

While the Ineos Grenadier has captured our attention with its rugged charm and promising capabilities, it's crucial to acknowledge that Ineos Automotive is a relatively new player in the automotive industry. As someone considering investing in a vehicle, I naturally have concerns about the reliability, long-term performance, and support that come with choosing a manufacturer without an established track record.

We all value a manufacturer's reputation for producing reliable and durable vehicles, and it's only natural to wonder if Ineos Automotive can live up to those standards. On the other hand, this fresh perspective and innovative approach could bring new and exciting features to the table.

As a new member, I'm eager to tap into the collective knowledge and experiences of this community. Have any of you been early adopters of the Ineos Grenadier? I would greatly appreciate hearing your firsthand experiences, insights, and any concerns you may have encountered along the way. Your input will undoubtedly help me make a more informed decision about whether the Ineos Grenadier is the right vehicle for me.

Let's foster a supportive and informative environment where we can openly discuss our reservations, share valuable information, and engage in thoughtful dialogue. Together, we can navigate the uncertainties of purchasing a vehicle from an unproven manufacturer and help each other make well-informed decisions.

Thank you all for welcoming me to this forum, and I'm excited to embark on this journey with all of you!

Best regards,
[Your Username]”

If it had been written like that, I would have been in 100% agreement!

 

[anonymos]

Not much to discuss here. For those who have the time to wait for a car until it arrives, the Ineos is an option (but no more than that). For those who need a car for a purpose and make plans they want to execute, it is not.

But if you take your Ineos on a ride, say to Africa and something breaks and you need spare parts, don‘t complain if it takes a week or a month or a year or two. Find yourself a cosy hut. Bring your rifle and a fishing rod. Buy some sheep. Find a wife. Raise the kids. And when the spare parts finally arrive, move on.

 

[Michael H.]

Not much to discuss here. For those who have the time to wait for a car until it arrives, the Ineos is an option (but no more than that). For those who need a car for a purpose and make plans they want to execute, it is not.

But if you take your Ineos on a ride, say to Africa and something breaks and you need spare parts, don‘t complain if it takes a week or a month or a year or two. Find yourself a cosy hut. Bring your rifle and a fishing rod. Buy some sheep. Find a wife. Raise the kids. And when the spare parts finally arrive, move on.

You might be interested to know that the agents in Australia have already received some supplies of spare parts, including windscreens, and a parts distribution facility is being set up in Melbourne.

I would assume this is happening in other countries also.

 

[DCPU]

You might be interested to know that the agents in Australia have already received some supplies of spare parts, including windscreens, and a parts distribution facility is being set up in Melbourne.

I would assume this is happening in other countries also.

I've only heard about the parts facility in Belgium that's supposed to serve the whole of Europe. There was reference to "extra regional hubs" but I've not seen them being named?

"If the INEOS-accredited service network will hold stock of common parts to ensure customers can get back on the road quickly." then I guess there's a list somewhere of what a "common part" is or if it's a dynamic list what it consists of at any one point in time?

Parts Support ~ 24 or 48 Hours?

I thought I was going mad...various references to Parts Support mentioned 24 hours and others 48. So it seems UK website is 48 hours but Oz site is 24. Why?

www.theineosforum.com

 

[emax]

I wonder what you are trying to tell us and what is the reason for your participation in the forum - if you are not likely to buy the vehicle anyway.

You are of course free to tell us something about yourself or not, but without an idea of your country it will often be difficult to understand and help as many of the questions here have to do with local regulations and the country specific builds.

But at least I have a proposal for your avatar:

 

[Trialmaster]

Not much to discuss here. For those who have the time to wait for a car until it arrives, the Ineos is an option (but no more than that). For those who need a car for a purpose and make plans they want to execute, it is not.

But if you take your Ineos on a ride, say to Africa and something breaks and you need spare parts, don‘t complain if it takes a week or a month or a year or two. Find yourself a cosy hut. Bring your rifle and a fishing rod. Buy some sheep. Find a wife. Raise the kids. And when the spare parts finally arrive, move on.

Why even bother to post? Nothing more than a troll. The admin, should first interrogate your IP address and email and then block and ban you.