Count me in. Just need to make some simple logistics work first 
Backcountry Discovery Route - https://ridebdr.com/
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There is an eastern half BDR - the Mid-Atlantic route see link:
ridebdr.com
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Its valid - especially given how widely distributed dealerships are. It is mildly concerning that we are weeks away from taking delivery of new vehicles and have so few service centers identified.
The list of things that could actually cripple the vehicle and render it undriveable is quite small, so I wouldn't feel the need to be near dealers at all times. Besides, if we were to do a hard way home of sorts stateside, I'm fairly confident it would have the same sort of Ineos support that the original had, which, to put it in a word, was substantial.Its valid - especially given how widely distributed dealerships are. It is mildly concerning that we are weeks away from taking delivery of new vehicles and have so few service centers identified.
As I start sketching out my cross country route - I'm inclined to drive in the general direction of Ineos dealerships along the way.
1025 Valley St to Fairfax
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This would be much easier if the promised Bosch service network was better understood. Interestingly, the UK site indicates the availability of a GLOBAL agreement with Bosch, as well as the 'Flying Spanners', which are not mentioned on the US site.
I'll have AAA in addition to whatever "experienced roadside assistance partners" Ineos has on offer.
I've got a chat conversation going on currently, to find out whether or not US consumers have access to this global contract with Bosch, as well as who the roadside assistance partner is in the US.
I don't share your confidence regarding factory support for a US "Hard way home". That strikes me as a one time marketing expenditure for a new product launch. Any other efforts appear to be local dealership initiatives, and largely disconnected from Ineos Corporate efforts.
The BDR’s generally aren’t “serious” outside some short sections that can be avoided. Section 5-1 of the original Oregon BDR’s is a great example of that. Mostly nice logging roads that offer amazing views, fantastic dispersed camp sites, and logistical support not too far off if needed. But nothing that would mechanically threaten the IG. I’d consider something like the Rubicon to threaten the IG haha. The BDR’s don’t have any of that that I am aware. Especially the routes on ridebdr.com. Those are setup for two wheels anyway. They barely acknowledge four-wheeled folk haha.
Have you done those BDR routes that you could expand on how you know way more great routes than that site can provide? Can you share your GPX or KML’s of your better routes? I’m planning for next year and need some options. TIA!
I've ordered the MA BDR paper maps and intend to make a go of it once I get back to the east coast w/my Grenadier. They regularly update the routes and the online videos do a good a job of letting you know what to expect. I find it quite admirable that they publish the routes and if I had more time in the PNW, I'd be doing some of those routes as well.
MA BDR is the mildest of them all and a nice relaxing route for the most part (barring serious rain or snow, pretty much the entirety can be done in a stock SUV in 2WD); it is a great ride through the countryside though with some awesome views
I did a couple sections of the original Oregon BDR’s over the last couple years, and they are amazing. Doing Washington next year. Ride BDR just published their Oregon route and it’s nothing like the original five routes, which is great because you get to experience even more of the state. I’d take an IG group through 5-1 in a heartbeat.
In 40 years of four wheeling throughout the west, I've done dozens of dozens of nice routes. I can't remember them all and have not documented them in any way other than some scribbling on a map. Most were before anything like KML or GPX existed. Primarily in eastern California, the Mojave desert, Death Valley, southern Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona. If there's an area that interests you, I'm happy to chat about it with you. I'm not claiming to know everything, but since I've stopped to think about it, they have sure added up. In fact, I'm leaving this afternoon to explore some old mining roads that lead to an historic tramway that brought salt out of the Saline Valley over the Inyo Mountains and down to the narrow gauge railroad near Keeler, CA. Last time I was there was 22 years ago! The railroad shut down in 1959.
We are offering all of our clients that want it, a Hard Way Home handover. We will have a few different options to be able to tailor it around the customer. This location here in the photos will make for a scenic and adventurous handover.
