Americas Front Driveshaft CV redesign

[Commodore]

Ineos crew, there is an issue with the front driveshaft CV at the transfer case side. The acute driveline angle generates heat causing the rubber on the CV to rip and spill grease. This leads to failure of the CV joint and ultimately immediate loss of forward propulsion. The failures have been well documented. Do you have plans to redesign this part or should owners start looking for their own permanent solutions?

This is a serious safety concern that needs to be resolved.

 

[Slov]

Depends on what you want to do with it.
If I had a do over I would probably find a real low mile last gen G Wagon and call it a day.

Aren’t those mall crawlers though?

 

[Shopkeep]

So, if I am waiting on my truck for March 2026 delivery...would anyone still recommend this vehicle? Pretty bummed out to hear about this. It's hard to find a simple body on frame modern 4x4 thats built to last if I have to replace a drive shaft prematurely at an unknown time. Everything else on the market in my eyes is crap in terms of durability due to hybrid systems sacrificing payload, cargo space, and require an engineer at the dealership to essentially fix.

Would you guys still buy the vehicle knowing this issue or advise someone to hold off?

The longer this thread goes the more paranoid it gets, I would buy it without hesitation.. Keep the suspension stock, if you want more clearance put taller tyres on it. Follow the service schedule, and periodically inspect the undercarriage yourself (which is super easy and a bit of fun anyway). Enjoy your vehicle when it arrives, it’s a cracker.

 

[Dokatd]

Depends on what you want to do with it.
If I had a do over I would probably find a real low mile last gen G Wagon and call it a day.

I feel this comment for sure.

So, if I am waiting on my truck for March 2026 delivery...would anyone still recommend this vehicle? Pretty bummed out to hear about this. It's hard to find a simple body on frame modern 4x4 thats built to last if I have to replace a drive shaft prematurely at an unknown time. Everything else on the market in my eyes is crap in terms of durability due to hybrid systems sacrificing payload, cargo space, and require an engineer at the dealership to essentially fix.

Would you guys still buy the vehicle knowing this issue or advise someone to hold off?

I would hate to steer you away, but it really does depend on what you are doing. I figure 99% of Grenadier owners don't need a Grenadier or bought it thinking it's an heirloom vehicle that they will hand off to their kids with 500k miles of use and a nostalgia to restore their Gran pappys old truck. Thats just not the reality, these trucks are built amazing well in many respects and just total junk in others. The truck relies too much on plastic and such and will be just as much ready for the scrap heap as any other vehicle made these days.

There is nothing a Grenadier can do that most any other similarly classed vehicle can do aside from turn heads. Thats just the sad truth.

So if you go in eyes open you just might have a great experience. But if you buy it thinking it's the best of every world and use it for more than a second vehicle or use it for commuting more than going off the beaten path then you may regret your purchase.

Me personally, I'm just stubborn.

 

[evomind]

Aren’t those mall crawlers though?

Solid axle front and rear with triple lockers.
I guess you can drive it to the mall too.
I drove my Grenadier to the mall last week.

 

[evomind]

I feel this comment for sure.


I would hate to steer you away, but it really does depend on what you are doing. I figure 99% of Grenadier owners don't need a Grenadier or bought it thinking it's an heirloom vehicle that they will hand off to their kids with 500k miles of use and a nostalgia to restore their Gran pappys old truck. Thats just not the reality, these trucks are built amazing well in many respects and just total junk in others. The truck relies too much on plastic and such and will be just as much ready for the scrap heap as any other vehicle made these days.

There is nothing a Grenadier can do that most any other similarly classed vehicle can do aside from turn heads. Thats just the sad truth.

So if you go in eyes open you just might have a great experience. But if you buy it thinking it's the best of every world and use it for more than a second vehicle or use it for commuting more than going off the beaten path then you may regret your purchase.

Me personally, I'm just stubborn.

Actually I find mine to be very streetable and have no problem going down the highway at 80mph.
I dont have HVAC issues and I dont have electronic snafus.
Zero complaints except I wanted to be able to put a slight lift on it and the axles were the least of my worries.